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04-22-2019, 06:51 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfield, California
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Originally Posted by David17fq
I have a 34 gallon main tank and a 94 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in my Silverado 3500. I can go 1100+ miles towing my Cedar Creek without fuelling. It is an ATTA max wedge dot certified aux tank with in-cab tank selection. It's the best way to go. I can fuel at truck stops and don't have to worry about running out of fuel. It's safer then carrying cans around.
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I'm way more low rent with my setup (which I'm sure came out of a work/farm truck): I have to jump in the bed, plug the pump into 12v , open filler neck and put fuel handle in and pump . Decided to not go with permanent mount because I use my truck for other stuff and it's standard bed, so I need all the room i can get.
That being said, still way better than cans IMHO. I should have mentioned that I'm 5'9", so lifting the cans to fill height on my 4x4 F250 was tiring...
Your setup looks REALLY nice.
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04-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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FWIW, here is my take. I have a 16 F350 that used to have a 27 gallon tank. It now has a 50 gallon titan tank.
I’ve done the can thing and frankly it sucks with the current epa cans.
My time is valuable to me...and if I’m using a fuel can on the side of the road it means one of two things; either I should have filled up at that last station that was a nickel per gallon more (which would have been less cost than the fuel in the cans+ my time) or I simply wasn’t paying attention, which still costs me money.
If you factor in your time, the expense of a auxiliary or larger replacement tank pencils out.
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04-22-2019, 06:53 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfield, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikes79
FWIW, here is my take. I have a 16 F350 that used to have a 27 gallon tank. It now has a 50 gallon titan tank.
I’ve done the can thing and frankly it sucks with the current epa cans.
My time is valuable to me...and if I’m using a fuel can on the side of the road it means one of two things; either I should have filled up at that last station that was a nickel per gallon more (which would have been less cost than the fuel in the cans+ my time) or I simply wasn’t paying attention, which still costs me money.
If you factor in your time, the expense of a auxiliary or larger replacement tank pencils out.
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Could not agree more on the time component. Vacation time is sacred...
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04-22-2019, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 840
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We always carry at least five gallons of extra diesel in the bed of our truck on long trips, towing our 35-foot fifth wheel with our Chevy Silverado 2500. It's a pain to use on the side of the road, but far less pain than running out of fuel.
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04-22-2019, 08:37 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Trapper Creek, Alaska
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Diesel Fuel Containers
We carry a couple of 5 gal jugs (old spout style) with us on our trips through Canada twice a year. Always use at least one on the Cassiar, and generally on the Alcan in the fall when many of the stations are closed. The range is only 300 miles on our Class C and extra fuel is essential. We have a carrier on the back of the RV for them. Cover them with a plastic garbage bag to keep the mud and crud off. I wouldn't want the fuel inside an enclosed compartment.
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04-22-2019, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 3,963
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Just added a 20 gallon aux tank instead of cans. When that tank is empty it is about time to stop for a break and find fuel in the next 250 miles.
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04-22-2019, 10:16 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 9
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I have a 100 gal auxiliary tank, so I don't need to haul fuel cans. but I use these https://www.orschelnfarmhome.com/cat...gal-107370201/ for gasoline when I take my Side X Side or my Sand Rail. Be careful that you don't fill your containers too full. Diesel expands quite a bit in the sun.
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04-22-2019, 11:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 578
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
That kinda defeats the purpose about getting diesel on your hands. I guarantee you will get diesel on your hands unless you wear gloves. I was just commenting about the fact that you couldn’t use the cans to fill up the truck with the fuel cap on the side. I have siphoned gas out of containers when I was younger. I think some government agencies has out lived there usefulness, the EPA in one among many.
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How can you make this guarantee if you have not tried the can?
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04-23-2019, 12:29 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Trapper Creek, Alaska
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikes79
FWIW, here is my take. I have a 16 F350 that used to have a 27 gallon tank. It now has a 50 gallon titan tank.
I’ve done the can thing and frankly it sucks with the current epa cans.
My time is valuable to me...and if I’m using a fuel can on the side of the road it means one of two things; either I should have filled up at that last station that was a nickel per gallon more (which would have been less cost than the fuel in the cans+ my time) or I simply wasn’t paying attention, which still costs me money.
If you factor in your time, the expense of a auxiliary or larger replacement tank pencils out.
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Nice if you have the vehicle load capacity. Unfortunately the Mercedes 350 C Class has limited GVW, so additional tanks is out of the question. Cassiar Hwy with 400+ miles between stations in the fall requires extra fuel with only a 300 mile range on the truck tank. I envy those who have the GVW capacity for added fuel tanks, self levelers, and other useful perks.
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04-23-2019, 07:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Albuquerque
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We got to Navajo Lake for salmon snagging last year, and NM State Parks was too lazy to open another campground. We had to drive another 60 miles to find a spot. I was on fumes, and had to drive 60 miles out of the way the next day to find gas. I wish I'd taken a diesel can.
I have a truck service step that I put over the spare tire on my Jeep. I put a pad under the gas can and bungee it on. Works great. I've traveled with diesel in my vehicle, and if you've spilled any, it really stinks.
Tractor Supply sells an Easy Pour gas can kit that adds a vent on the top back and has a flexible spout with a screw on cap. It emptys the can much faster, with no mess or fuss. At $11, it costs more than I paid for most of my gas cans, but it is worth it.
I used to carry extra 5 gallon jugs of water for my trailer, and would set the can on a step ladder, and siphon it into the trailer. Much better than holding it while it gurgles in slowly.
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04-23-2019, 07:49 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 29
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Extra Fuel in inside storage bins
You received a lot of replies to your question, I didn't read them all, but the ones I did read didn't answer your question. I WOULD NOT carry extra fuel, diesel or gas in an enclosed area, the most important reason is fume build-up and possible explosion, another reason is the smell (especially diesel). With that said I started carrying extra diesel last year, but carry it on a "receiver hitch back rack" along with a 2nd spare tire and other odds/ends.
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04-23-2019, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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6 pages. Lots of tete-a-tete.
Lots of complaints, no solutions. I did not carry a spare diesel can last trip, and boy it almost cost me. I came south on I-57 and was on fumes when I finally got to a station. I will carry my 5 gallon diesel can from now on. The spout is no longer an issue. Easy fix:
https://www.amazon.com/EZ-Pour-Gas-C...SIN=B06WRRXG1X
I don't care who thought up the current fuel can spouts; clearly some lawyer, probably not a President. Not a good idea either.
Oh, and I never get any diesel fuel on my hands when filling up either one of my two fuel tanks, main or auxiliary. I guess I'm just special.
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04-24-2019, 06:08 AM
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#53
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 8
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I save the plastic slip covers from our Sunday newspaper to use to protect my hands from smelly diesel when fueling.
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04-24-2019, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slow Moon
How can you make this guarantee if you have not tried the can?
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Because he has been around and he knows how things work (and don’t work). I would bet big money that he is right.
Bruce
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04-25-2019, 11:52 AM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 209
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
Just added a 20 gallon aux tank instead of cans. When that tank is empty it is about time to stop for a break and find fuel in the next 250 miles.
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CaptJohn - Which one 20 gal tank did you go with?
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04-25-2019, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 5,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kgkerl
You received a lot of replies to your question, I didn't read them all, but the ones I did read didn't answer your question. I WOULD NOT carry extra fuel, diesel or gas in an enclosed area, the most important reason is fume build-up and possible explosion, another reason is the smell (especially diesel). With that said I started carrying extra diesel last year, but carry it on a "receiver hitch back rack" along with a 2nd spare tire and other odds/ends.
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Just to clear up one point.....Diesel is basically considered "Non-Flammable"... Gasoline ? YES !! Diesel...NO ! but you do have a valid point on the "ODOR" spill a little Diesel...and you smell it for months.
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04-25-2019, 12:28 PM
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Grammar Pedant
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Frederick, CO
Posts: 1,580
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
6 pages. Lots of tete-a-tete.
Lots of complaints, no solutions. [...]
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No solutions? Then you didn't read the 6 pages. There were lots of solutions. Several different kinds of cans, aftermarket spouts, funnels recommended to solve spillage, pouring techniques to solve spillage, and even auxiliary tank recommendations. Tons of solutions. Sure, lots of debate strewn in there, some politics, and some nonsense, but plenty of solutions.
Here are some others:
Jerry can for diesel. These have the advantage of a standardized form factor. So, there are various mounts that can be installed. I linked to one, but there are quite a few different styles. Some offer locking mechanisms, too, for better security.
RotoPaX makes good fuel containers that have unique mounting features. Some people have crafted ways to attach to Boxlink or other side-of-the-bed mounts. They have smaller volumes, though (2 gal, nominal).
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04-25-2019, 01:18 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Northen IL
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NOTE: The site team has cleaned up and/or deleted some posts in this thread. This is a good thread with useful information but let's please try to keep the politics out of it.
Thanks.
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04-25-2019, 06:23 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 578
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad297
Because he has been around and he knows how things work (and don’t work). I would bet big money that he is right.
Bruce
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The "guarantee" is a baseless knock on a can recommended by several above. The "guarantor" has not used the can. I asked about that and have not seen his response.
Readers should know there's virtually no way to get fuel on your hands when fueling from this can as directed. Fueling is a "push-button" operation with no cap removal & no loose parts.
https://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-1457...dp/B000W9P83S/
"Big money" on this can slopping fuel would be a foolish bet. I wouldn't count on the "guarantee" covering your losses.
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