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Old 10-17-2018, 03:48 PM   #91
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The new Chapparal 25MKS coming soon should fit many of todays Half tons with a dry weight of 7600lbs and a gross of 9800llbs with a 1300lbs pin weight. I'm excited to see it.

I disagree.
That dry pin weight could easily swell up past the capability of any 1/2 ton except a F150 with Heavy Duty Payload package unicorn. That's the only 1/2 ton I know of that can have a payload over 2000lbs.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:52 PM   #92
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Respect. Here you go then a fifthwheel for your seven foot wide dreams coming to a Winnie dealer near you
https://rv-pro.com/news/winnebago-in...ie-fifth-wheel
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:18 PM   #93
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Respect. Here you go then a fifthwheel for your seven foot wide dreams coming to a Winnie dealer near you
https://rv-pro.com/news/winnebago-in...ie-fifth-wheel
Interesting. Looking forward to see what the pin weights are.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:32 PM   #94
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I disagree.
That dry pin weight could easily swell up past the capability of any 1/2 ton except a F150 with Heavy Duty Payload package unicorn. That's the only 1/2 ton I know of that can have a payload over 2000lbs.
Thereís more of them around up here. I see them quite often. When I bought my 2017 I had a choice of a few. And if I wanted a 5 litre, there was more to choose from. Iíve seen well equipped units with payloads of 2200 to 2800.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:39 PM   #95
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Pin weight

And here are a couple of their foot notes (disclaimer)

Capacities are based on measurements prior to tank installation. Slight capacity variations can result due to installation applications.
Actual towing capacity is dependent upon your particular loading and towing circumstances, which includes the GVWR, GAWR and GCWR as well as adequate trailer brakes. Please refer to the Operator's Manual of your vehicle for further towing information
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:49 PM   #96
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Well the published numbers

GVWR (lbs.) 9,995
Dry Weight (lbs.) 7,220

With GVWR of10,000 can't possibly have 800lb pin weight. If this is true better have 10000 lbs of axles underneath. I went through this with a Forest River ultra light 30ft. GVRW 9200 and 7000 lbs of axle which seems to then need 2200 lbs on the pin. (Which was actually impossible I had 1750 on the pin and I said I'm I supposed to add the extra 500 lbs to the bedroom?
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:15 AM   #97
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I bought a "half ton towable" FR Rockwood WS8280 then went looking for a half ton truck in 2015. GVWR was 9000lb and tongue was 1189lb. Even the aluminum body F-150 was marginal at best even with tow upgrades. I ended up with a 2015 2500 HD crew with no haul/tow upgrades. Base equipment allowed 3000lb payload and just under 13000lb tow. Decent margin and I now carry 50 gallons of water in the bed at 400+ lbs for boon docking. I'm well within tow but get up to about 2600lb with the water and hitch and such. The "half ton towable" 5ver sat way nose high so I had to raise it 3 inches to get it level. Not looking back, the WS8280 moves even the 6700lb 2500 around on some bridge approaches. Think it lifted the rear wheels once (came down heading for the shoulder). It can be a nuisance parking it in town, but walking an extra block usually takes care of that. Get 14 mpg or a bit more without the 5ver and 9.5 with it. It's a gas truck. If you really want half ton, the 24' or shorter lightweight 5vers are probably the ticket.
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Get a newer (2014-2019) 2500HD gasser.

You'll get around 15 MPG not towing as long as you don't put off-road tires on it.

And you won't be taking your life into your own hands while hauling a 5'ver.
Sorry to have mislead a bit, that's what I was trying to say when I said sorry for going off topic. I do not intend to tow a fifth wheel with a half ton, I just got interested in the diesel f-150 "Screw" he was referring to. We have a 5000 pound bumper pull, so the F-150 (properly equipped) is well up to the task for that.
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