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10-16-2018, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: southeast, Pa.
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Originally Posted by Mr Towed
I'd be interested in what cab/bed/drivetrain you've got. I was am looking at the small powerstroke and was disappointed to find that the Heavy Duty Payload option is not available. The only reason I can see for that is that they don't want to cannabalize F-250 sales, even though it is a $60,000 truck because they force you into the high level trims.
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2018 F150 3.5 EB, XLT 301a, Screw, 6.5' bed, HDPP, Max Tow, tow mirrors and sliding rear glass. For 2019 the Lariat trim is not available with HDPP. Of course the more options the less payload. This one came in a bit over my 2400# target . I'm getting 18mpg as the daily driver and no real highway miles yet. I've had it three weeks now. The ride is firm but it's miles ahead of the F250 I was given as my work truck. I toyed with going 3/4 ton but I would do a Ram 2500 gas engine because they rode better. I'm too old now to take that buckboard ride.
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10-16-2018, 10:12 AM
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#82
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 603
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Originally Posted by Wicked Ace
2018 F150 3.5 EB, XLT 301a, Screw, 6.5' bed, HDPP, Max Tow, tow mirrors and sliding rear glass. For 2019 the Lariat trim is not available with HDPP. Of course the more options the less payload. This one came in a bit over my 2400# target . I'm getting 18mpg as the daily driver and no real highway miles yet. I've had it three weeks now. The ride is firm but it's miles ahead of the F250 I was given as my work truck. I toyed with going 3/4 ton but I would do a Ram gas engine because they rode better. I'm too old now to take that buckboard ride.
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Thanks, and sorry for going off topic a little, folks! I'm not sure what "screw" means, but those tow mirrors are one of the things that really got me interested in the F-150. I have a silverado 2500 right now and it can handle our trailer easily, but the engine does rev on the hills because it's a gasser. But the real reason to try to see if we can make a 1/2 ton work is that once we get to our destination we spend a lot of time driving around on day trips and excursions, and an empty, fuel hungry, 3/4 ton truck is not ideal for this purpose at all. Bouncing around at 10 mpg takes away from the enjoyment a bit. I also would consider getting rid of my regular "commuter" car if the F-150 was comfortable and fuel efficient enough for daily use.
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10-16-2018, 10:22 AM
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#83
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I'm Lost
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Algonquin Provincial Park, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Mr Towed
Thanks, and sorry for going off topic a little, folks! I'm not sure what "screw" means, but those tow mirrors are one of the things that really got me interested in the F-150. I have a silverado 2500 right now and it can handle our trailer easily, but the engine does rev on the hills because it's a gasser. But the real reason to try to see if we can make a 1/2 ton work is that once we get to our destination we spend a lot of time driving around on day trips and excursions, and an empty, fuel hungry, 3/4 ton truck is not ideal for this purpose at all. Bouncing around at 10 mpg takes away from the enjoyment a bit. I also would consider getting rid of my regular "commuter" car if the F-150 was comfortable and fuel efficient enough for daily use.
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Screw + Super Crew (cab)
The largest 4 door in the industry with a low flat floor in the back seat with the seats folded up!
Geoff
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10-16-2018, 10:27 AM
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#84
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Towed
Thanks, and sorry for going off topic a little, folks! I'm not sure what "screw" means, but those tow mirrors are one of the things that really got me interested in the F-150. I have a silverado 2500 right now and it can handle our trailer easily, but the engine does rev on the hills because it's a gasser. But the real reason to try to see if we can make a 1/2 ton work is that once we get to our destination we spend a lot of time driving around on day trips and excursions, and an empty, fuel hungry, 3/4 ton truck is not ideal for this purpose at all. Bouncing around at 10 mpg takes away from the enjoyment a bit. I also would consider getting rid of my regular "commuter" car if the F-150 was comfortable and fuel efficient enough for daily use.
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Get a newer (2014-2019) 2500HD gasser.
You'll get around 15 MPG not towing as long as you don't put off-road tires on it.
And you won't be taking your life into your own hands while hauling a 5'ver.
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10-16-2018, 01:48 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wabakami
Screw + Super Crew (cab)
The largest 4 door in the industry with a low flat floor in the back seat with the seats folded up!
Geoff
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One big reason why I bought my F150 Super Crew. Absolutely love it and bought a Du-Ha underseat storage compartment for it.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-17-2018, 10:53 AM
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#86
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
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What about the Winnebago 25RKS Minnie Plus? Their specs say it has a hitch weight of 820lbs.
Tom
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10-17-2018, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked Ace
GVWR is 7850# so I still have over 2200# to work with.......Just sayin'.
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Now subtract the hitch weight (250# to 350#). What do you have left?
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10-17-2018, 12:14 PM
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#88
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denver, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
One big reason why I bought my F150 Super Crew. Absolutely love it and bought a Du-Ha underseat storage compartment for it.
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Hey Dan, You have to change your profile pic so we can see that new Ford and the Primetime
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10-17-2018, 12:45 PM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: southeast, Pa.
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Originally Posted by elchilero53
Now subtract the hitch weight (250# to 350#). What do you have left?
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Where I grew up they taught simple addition and subtraction in first grade. Miss it?
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10-17-2018, 01:34 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
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The new Chapparal 25MKS coming soon should fit many of todays Half tons with a dry weight of 7600lbs and a gross of 9800llbs with a 1300lbs pin weight. I'm excited to see it.
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10-17-2018, 02:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Primorver
The new Chapparal 25MKS coming soon should fit many of todays Half tons with a dry weight of 7600lbs and a gross of 9800llbs with a 1300lbs pin weight. I'm excited to see it.
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I disagree.
That dry pin weight could easily swell up past the capability of any 1/2 ton except a F150 with Heavy Duty Payload package unicorn. That's the only 1/2 ton I know of that can have a payload over 2000lbs.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-17-2018, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Primorver
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Interesting. Looking forward to see what the pin weights are.
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Dan-Retired California Firefighter/EMT
Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-17-2018, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 349
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
I disagree.
That dry pin weight could easily swell up past the capability of any 1/2 ton except a F150 with Heavy Duty Payload package unicorn. That's the only 1/2 ton I know of that can have a payload over 2000lbs.
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There’s more of them around up here. I see them quite often. When I bought my 2017 I had a choice of a few. And if I wanted a 5 litre, there was more to choose from. I’ve seen well equipped units with payloads of 2200 to 2800.
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10-17-2018, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Georgetown, TX
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Pin weight
And here are a couple of their foot notes (disclaimer)
Capacities are based on measurements prior to tank installation. Slight capacity variations can result due to installation applications.
Actual towing capacity is dependent upon your particular loading and towing circumstances, which includes the GVWR, GAWR and GCWR as well as adequate trailer brakes. Please refer to the Operator's Manual of your vehicle for further towing information
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10-17-2018, 04:49 PM
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#96
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Georgetown, TX
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Well the published numbers
GVWR (lbs.) 9,995
Dry Weight (lbs.) 7,220
With GVWR of10,000 can't possibly have 800lb pin weight. If this is true better have 10000 lbs of axles underneath. I went through this with a Forest River ultra light 30ft. GVRW 9200 and 7000 lbs of axle which seems to then need 2200 lbs on the pin. (Which was actually impossible I had 1750 on the pin and I said I'm I supposed to add the extra 500 lbs to the bedroom?
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10-19-2018, 01:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Granite Bay, Ca
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I bought a "half ton towable" FR Rockwood WS8280 then went looking for a half ton truck in 2015. GVWR was 9000lb and tongue was 1189lb. Even the aluminum body F-150 was marginal at best even with tow upgrades. I ended up with a 2015 2500 HD crew with no haul/tow upgrades. Base equipment allowed 3000lb payload and just under 13000lb tow. Decent margin and I now carry 50 gallons of water in the bed at 400+ lbs for boon docking. I'm well within tow but get up to about 2600lb with the water and hitch and such. The "half ton towable" 5ver sat way nose high so I had to raise it 3 inches to get it level. Not looking back, the WS8280 moves even the 6700lb 2500 around on some bridge approaches. Think it lifted the rear wheels once (came down heading for the shoulder). It can be a nuisance parking it in town, but walking an extra block usually takes care of that. Get 14 mpg or a bit more without the 5ver and 9.5 with it. It's a gas truck. If you really want half ton, the 24' or shorter lightweight 5vers are probably the ticket.
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10-19-2018, 11:47 AM
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#98
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnD10
Get a newer (2014-2019) 2500HD gasser.
You'll get around 15 MPG not towing as long as you don't put off-road tires on it.
And you won't be taking your life into your own hands while hauling a 5'ver.
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Sorry to have mislead a bit, that's what I was trying to say when I said sorry for going off topic. I do not intend to tow a fifth wheel with a half ton, I just got interested in the diesel f-150 "Screw" he was referring to. We have a 5000 pound bumper pull, so the F-150 (properly equipped) is well up to the task for that.
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Travel Pooch:Sophie the Sato - Cats: Rhody and Hazy
2018:22nights / 2019:31Nights / 2020:18Nights
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01-06-2019, 10:10 AM
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#99
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Marthasville, Missouri
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There is an Open Range “Light” that is specifically made as a 1/2 T towable. Around 8-900# pin weight. About 9-9,500 dry weight.
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01-06-2019, 10:18 AM
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#100
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EdandJan
There is an Open Range “Light” that is specifically made as a 1/2 T towable. Around 8-900# pin weight. About 9-9,500 dry weight.
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In reality...a 1/2-ton is paper thin barely capable of hauling that.
Unfortunately, the RV makers are using the "1/2-ton towable 5'ver" as an advertising ploy to get sales.
My 33-foot 5'ver weighs in at 9500 pounds FULLY LOADED...
And I would never in a million years even attempt to hitch it up to a 1/2-ton pickup.
No way...
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