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Old 01-14-2016, 11:38 PM   #21
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I have a 2013 2500 HD Duramax/Allison and our numbers seem to be the same. The 10,000 max weight is just that. The front and rear weight ratings mean when loading that 10,000 lbs, do not exceed that distribution arrangement. WDH will add weight to the front wheels and take some off the rear axle.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:52 PM   #22
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Blackhat6mike......yes, we are similar. My front axle is rated at 4800 lbs....rear 6200 same as yours. My GVWR is 9500 lbs. Less because I don't have the heavier front axle due to the heavier diesel. My truck with me and fuel weighs a little under 6500 lbs.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:00 AM   #23
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I have a 2013 2500 HD Duramax/Allison and our numbers seem to be the same. The 10,000 max weight is just that. The front and rear weight ratings mean when loading that 10,000 lbs, do not exceed that distribution arrangement. WDH will add weight to the front wheels and take some off the rear axle.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:04 AM   #24
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Not subtracted from axle rated weights. It's max vehicle weight shown on door sticker minus scale weight equals remaining payload.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:08 AM   #25
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The only sticker on the door beam is the one that shows the max payload of 2214lbs. I may need to check the VIN with the dealer to get the certified label numbers that the owners manual mentions. I have looked every where and cannot find the certified label. During my search I found the max camper weight in the glove box is 1485 lbs, which I didn't know until now.
That looks abour right, I was looking at a 2500HD that had a cargo Capacity of 2285, well with me and the wife I figured 500 pounds, 200 for the hitch and the 2300 lbs that my pin weight was, I was already over, so I bought a 3500HD instead, it had a cargo capacity of 3845 so now I am good. the 2500 will pull 17,300 pounds where my 3500 will only tow 17,100. Hope this helps.
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2500 and 3500 stickers from the doors, 2500 is 2285, 3500 is 3845
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:34 AM   #27
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And this is why I feel a 3/4t diesel is not the right tool for towing fifth wheels.

The OP scale weights have him within 300lbs of max frony axle rating without his 5er. Add about 30% of his tongue weight to that number when towing... yikes!

Per his scale weights and door stickers he only has 1500lbs of payload left. Hopefully it's a smaller 5er.

Now you will have those that say the 10,000 lb GVWR is just a number. The front axle weight rating is not.

27xx max payload rating was for either a base model regular cab 4X2 duramax or a gasser. The at diesel is 700-900lbs.
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And this is why I feel a 3/4t diesel is not the right tool for towing fifth wheels.

The OP scale weights have him within 300lbs of max frony axle rating without his 5er. Add about 30% of his tongue weight to that number when towing... yikes!

Per his scale weights and door stickers he only has 1500lbs of payload left. Hopefully it's a smaller 5er.

Now you will have those that say the 10,000 lb GVWR is just a number. The front axle weight rating is not.

27xx max payload rating was for either a base model regular cab 4X2 duramax or a gasser. The at diesel is 700-900lbs.
That's a little generic saying a 3/4 Ton diesel isn't the right tool for towing a 5th wheel. You have to match the capabilities of the TV to the weight of the trailer. It's pretty simple. You can have your rig set up perfect, but as the driver you have to be comfortable towing a large heavy trailer. It's not for everyone, some people get too nervous. It's not just your safety, but the safety of everyone else on the road around you. Use common sense, just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done.
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I have found that all diesel pickups tend to be just at or above the factory front axle rating
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That's a little generic saying a 3/4 Ton diesel isn't the right tool for towing a 5th wheel. You have to match the capabilities of the TV to the weight of the trailer. It's pretty simple. You can have your rig set up perfect, but as the driver you have to be comfortable towing a large heavy trailer. It's not for everyone, some people get too nervous. It's not just your safety, but the safety of everyone else on the road around you. Use common sense, just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done.
You tell me my statement is generic, but describe why it's true in the next 2 sentences.

Take the OP and his scaled weights. He's lost over 700lbs of his sticker payload BEFORE his trailer is hooked up. I am the exact same, only my payload is 3100, his 2200. So he has only 280lbs of capacity left to be distributed to his front axle, and only 1500lbs total left for pin weight. This won't get you a very big fifth wheel.

He's already made the investment for the truck, the trailer comes next... so is he going to limit himself to a 8,000lb gross 5th wheel and still be over axle ratings and payload?
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