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Old 01-16-2016, 04:54 PM   #31
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Hey Drittal, Im not arguing your math. Seems spot on. Just your statement that a 3/4 ton Diesel is not the right tool to tow a fifth wheel. I disagree. 5vers come in all sizes and weights. If you said a 3/4 ton is not the right choice for towing a larger and heavier 5th wheel. Then I would agree with you. Don't forget all trucks have a GCWR. With everything distributed properly this is the maximum combined weight of everything that your truck is designed to move safely.
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Old 01-16-2016, 05:12 PM   #32
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You are right. With 280lbs to spare on the front axle weight and 1500lbs of payload, the fifth options are practically limitless, as long as you limit yourself to 7-8,000lbs max trailer weight.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:26 PM   #33
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You are right. With 280lbs to spare on the front axle weight and 1500lbs of payload, the fifth options are practically limitless, as long as you limit yourself to 7-8,000lbs max trailer weight.
With a properly set up fifth wheel hitch, what percentage of the pin weight do you think gets added to the front axle?
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:32 PM   #34
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Well I finally found the sticker located straight below the "B" column but facing the outside of the vehicle not in the jam. First time I have ever seen it placed there. So now I have GAWR F of 5200lbs. That is much better. Thanks for all the help
Good luck shopping for a newer camper. Hopefully you got the answers you were looking for.
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:42 PM   #35
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A properly setup WDH hitch should send ~30% to the steer axles like a properly set up 5th wheel.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:17 AM   #36
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I bought a '14 Silverado 2500 Duramax W/snowplow package two years ago come spring to pull my travel trailer. This past Spring I ran into a deal I couldn't pass up and purchased a Columbus 320. I ran her across a Cat Scale and the only problem was 40lbs. over on the pin. So the pin weight was 2,540. Everything else was fine. Of course both units were loaded to go minus liquids. Being a retired truck driver, I am quite used to the procedure.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:11 AM   #37
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Duramax 6.6L 4X4 actual axle weights look wrong

Some bad info being passed around here. 1) Virtually all of the pin weight of a properly set up fiver hitch sits on the rear axle. Usually less than 100 lbs is transferred to the front axle. 2) with a TT zero lbs of tongue weight goes to the front axle with a properly set up WDH. Weight is shifted to the front axle, but it is the same weight that is removed by dropping the trailer on the back end of the truck. Many times 100% of that weight is not even transferred back. Additionally about 20% of the TW gets transferred to the trailer axles.


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Some bad info being passed around here. 1) Virtually all of the pin weight of a properly set up fiver hitch sits on the rear axle. 2) with a TT zero lbs of tongue weight goes to the front axle with a properly set up WDH. Weight is shifted to the front axle, but it is the same weight that is removed by dropping the trailer on the back end of the truck. Many times 100% of that weight is not even transferred back. Additionally about 20% of the TW gets transferred to the trailer axles.


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My front axle loses 120 pounds of weight when the TT with weight list hitch is hooked up.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:29 AM   #39
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When I drop my trailer on my front loses 450 and my WDH returns 320. Just about the same net loss as yours.


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Old 01-17-2016, 11:10 AM   #40
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Good luck shopping for a newer camper. Hopefully you got the answers you were looking for.
Yes thanks the answers are good. However a side issue has be brought out due to the responses. It is not right that we have to dig so hard to find the answers to weights. IMHO a beginner has no idea weights and has to guess at first then when discovering knowledge available on forums and other 5er owners like this it's truly eye opening. Knowing pin weight limitations should be common sense to anyone purchasing a TV. I have been using the weight sites for over 2 years and when I decided to purchase my 2500 Duramax 6.6L 4x4 I thought I was getting payload of 2973lbs. based on the sales flyer first and then with other data so I never checked when the truck arrived. When I started looking for a heavier 5er. I wanted to know my max hitch weight so I could keep the new rig below this number. When I saw 2214 lb. payload I had to look twice and then got really upset with my recent purchase. The difference of (579 lbs.) is not what I wanted to see and frankly it would have changed what I purchased. Experienced RVers may think this stuff is common sense but is really not.

Lesson learned: Never.never..never take someone's word on vehicle capacities. Check the actual numbers listed on the certified labels on the exact vehicle you are planning to purchase. Make sure you run the numbers to confirm the vehicle will meet your needs.

I truly love how my TV works with my existing 5er but I hate the fact that I didn't know to check the exact specs., not the advertised ones. With the weights I have I am limited to 1500 lbs. for pin weight.
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