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Old 04-19-2009, 07:22 PM   #1
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Education on tow vehicles

Just wanted to share a lesson I just learned on selecting a tow vehicle. We recently purchased a new camper which is heavier than our old one. (new one is approx. 8200# loaded.) The old TV I had was a 2001 F150 supercrew which tow capacity is 8600# and was worried about pushing the envelope.
I wrongly assumed that an 2009 F350 would be the way to go and I didn't want a diesel or a gas gussling V10 so I looked at the 5.4L. After some research I found that the tow cap. was 9600# and I was just floored. I then looked at Ford's web site and noticed it boasted 2009 F150's with a TC of 11,300# properly equipped.
I spoke with the "truck specialist" at dealership and he showed me the graph where an 2009 F150 supercrew 4x4 with the 5.4 L FFV motor and 157 inch wheelbase with the "max trailer tow" on it would tow 11,100#. The F150 was cheaper and had more luxuries on it than the F350. I was under the wrong assumption that a 1 ton could out tow a 1/2 ton. Has anyone else ran across this? Anyway, thought this might be helpful to someone. Have a great day!
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:27 PM   #2
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OOHHHH. whatever you do don`t bring that up over on RV.net. funny how thing like that work out.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:33 PM   #3
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Hey there dodge guy, I am new to whole forum thing. Why not bring it up on RV.net?
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:37 PM   #4
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Why not bring it up on RV.net?
Your post will be like a Relay Race. The Baton will change colors every time it's handed to the next guy.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:29 PM   #5
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Your hitch weight will be quite high with an 8200# pull trailer so I doubt a 2009 F150 could handle it even with that high tow capacity. Perhaps a 3/"4 ton will do the job.
Don't dismiss the V10 as I spent 4 months contempating pros and cons of gas verses deisel and so far happy with our choice. Need to put high miles per yr to make deisel pay off.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:48 AM   #6
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dezolen is right. The payload capacity is greater with the F250/350 than the F150. Your hitch weight with a 8200 lb tt is probably a little over 1,000 lbs. 11,100 lb tt's hitch weight should be approx. 1,440 lbs. Based on 13% of tt max weight.
I read where the max tow package requires the heavy duty payload package. It's probably needed for the added hitch weight.

I found the following info in Ford's '09 towing guide.

The F150 4x2 Super Crew with a 5.4 V8, 163" wheel base, max tow package and 3.73 gears will handle 11,300 lbs.
The F250 4x2 Super Crew SRW ( wheel base not listed) with a 5.4 V8 and 4.10 gears will handle 11,700 lbs. (3.73 gears is 9,700)
The same truck (4.10 & 4.30 gears) with a V10 will handle 12,500.

I couldn't find payload capacities so here are the max cargo weight with slide in camper.
The max cargo weight on a F150 4x2 Supercab (didn't show listing on a super crew) with a 5.4 V8 and 163" wheel base is 1,805 lbs. This is with the heavy duty payload package.
The max cargo weight on a F250 4x2 Super Crew with a 5.4 V8 and 158" wheel base is 2,325 lbs. The V10 is 2,392 lbs.

I haven't checked the msrp's or the rebates but I wonder if there is that much difference in price after you add all the extras to the F150. It doesn't look like you can match the payload capacity but the F150 should handle your hitch weight if you get the max tow package.

I hope this helps.

If anyone has priced the F150 vs the F250 (as equal in trim such as XL, XLT, Lariat, King Ranch, additional options and etc.. as possible), let us know what you've found.
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In all my truck shopping / servicing days, I have never seen a 1/2 Ton come with anything other than P-Metric tires, 3/4 & 1 Tons get 8 & 10 Plys. But I could be wrong with that tow package. I'd go with a F250-F350, but than again, I'd buy a chevy!
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AND, knowing what I know now about mileage and towing, IF I was to buy a new rig, I would definitely go with a DIESEL! My Ram gets a whopping 7 mpg towing at 65 in flat Florida. Diesel engines on the other hand, are designed for this. (My 2 cents worth) Randy
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:54 AM   #9
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agree my next one will be a crew cab rattler (duramax)
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:28 PM   #10
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Numbers are very interesting. IMHO: If you're going to tow something in the 9k lbs range you need a tow vehicle without sparkplugs!

Unless you're towing downhill with the wind you won't be happy with that 1/2 ton with the 5.4. If I were absolutely against Diesel, I'd at least give that V-10 a try.

Of course all this is just MY opinion after towing with a gas and diesel powered rig.

Best of luck in whatever you choose.
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