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Old 06-18-2015, 10:04 AM   #11
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Thanks NeedMoreLeisureTime.


I got a answer from my Pedego retailer about the Thule Rack. She said that since the bike rack is so far back from the axels that there is a lot of bounce that is amplified by the frame flexing as you move down the road. Thule does not recommend using their bike racks on a RV


So now we are exploring alternatives. Anybody have any experience with a front mounted bike rack (i.e. have a receiver welded to the front of the TV and put your bike rack there. Added advantage is you always see your bike - potential disadvantage is lessened road visibility? I don't know -- looking for advice.


RubberNail - we are "only" 60, but share your concerns for our elder years - the big reason we are opting for e-bikes. The Pedego has a great feature they call "peddle assist" in which the electric motor kicks in, in varying degrees of assist, when you peddle. There are 6 levels from No assist to full assist. In the minimal assist mode, the motor is available to help you up steep hills but does not engage when you are peddling on flat or slight inclines; thus you get you bike exercise. This feature alone sold us on the Pedego!
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:53 PM   #12
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Just a quick note on the bike racks. The Swagman XTC is made FOR RV use. If you elect to go with the front mount, I strongly suggest you look at attaching a 2" receiver (weld or bolt) to the front and then adapt the Swagman, or other hitch mount carrier, to the receiver. I've done this a couple of times with 5th wheel pin boxes and it works well. Also allows for other receiver hitch mounted items.
I doubt you will find a bike rack rated for 2 45# bikes on an RV. I didn't. Most are 35# on a passenger vehicle. When I make a long trip over really bad roads (live in Louisiana, so have PLENTY of those) I strap the ends of the Swagman wheel bars to the top of the upright clamping bar to create a "truss" and that will more than do the job. Don't think I need it, but makes me feel better. Also, being a retired structural engineer, gives me some sense of satisfaction knowing there's still application for my trade.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:24 PM   #13
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Just a quick note on the bike racks. The Swagman XTC is made FOR RV use. If you elect to go with the front mount, I strongly suggest you look at attaching a 2" receiver (weld or bolt) to the front and then adapt the Swagman, or other hitch mount carrier, to the receiver. I've done this a couple of times with 5th wheel pin boxes and it works well. Also allows for other receiver hitch mounted items.
I doubt you will find a bike rack rated for 2 45# bikes on an RV. I didn't. Most are 35# on a passenger vehicle. When I make a long trip over really bad roads (live in Louisiana, so have PLENTY of those) I strap the ends of the Swagman wheel bars to the top of the upright clamping bar to create a "truss" and that will more than do the job. Don't think I need it, but makes me feel better. Also, being a retired structural engineer, gives me some sense of satisfaction knowing there's still application for my trade.
Thanks Rubbernail!

I have a question in to Swagman to confirm if the XTC will work on our 5er. Will let you know on this thread what they say.

I am beginning to think that the solution others have done (carry the bikes inside the 5er may be the better solution.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:58 PM   #14
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HSVBamaBob, I know what you're going through. We looked at a front hitch - expensive to weld and the bikes would block the view. We looked at storing them in the 5-er. Our floor plan just didn't offer any good spaces.

I was so excited to see that they could fit between the 5th wheel hitch and the cab when I loaded them just right ... um, er, until the first tight turn I made on that trip. You should have heard the bang that went off when a handlebar got pushed right through our back window just 10 miles into our trip! Sounded like a shotgun. Luckily, no damage to the front of the 5-er, but a big hit on my ego. A little duct tape and cardboard, and a very understanding wife, and we were on our way to Utah for 3 weeks. You know what they say, live and learn, and learn, and learn...

We looked at racks a lot too. The Kuat we selected is rated for two sixty lb bikes, 120 lbs total. And it's got a cam that you can use to tighten the fit to the 2" receiver. Our local RV repair shop has an experienced welder on staff, and we crawled around a bunch to look at the frame and measure before he came up with a solution. Ultimately, even with the loading, I'm not concerned about too much torque or stress on the I-beams of the 5-er frame.

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:15 PM   #15
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Sorry. Did not realize yours is a 5th wheel. We have a Sunseeker 2300 class "C" and a Montana 2955 5th wheel. On the 5th, welded a 2" receiver to the top of the pin box. Then made a 2" (2x2x3/16 tubing) to fit into the receiver. Then put the upper portion of the Swagman XC Tow Mount ($130 from Camping World) on that tube. Makes everything removable except the welded receiver, plus can move the carrier over to back of truck and carry bikes on side trips. ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT. The carrier mounted on the pin box will have VERY LITTLE dynamic loads, as compared to a bumper mount. Almost none. Main thing is to check that the 2" tubing that mounts to the receiver will end up putting your rack ABOVE the top of the truck cab, so no damage making tight turns. Remember to allow for possible downward tilt of the 5th wheel when making turns. I carry 2 Prodeco Strides on the arrangement with NO problems -- except to lift them up there and get them down. For that I use a 8' section of NDS drainage channel, purchased from Lowes, about $50, roll the bikes up onto tool box/auxiliary fuel tank and lift from there.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:22 PM   #16
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Rubbernail - it sounds like you have almost a identical setup as wel will have on our 5th wheel!


We are going to have a 'Fuelbox' Aux tank/tool box installed in our 8' Dodge Dually bed.


If you have them, It would be really helpful if you could upload photos of :
* The bike rack adapter on the pinbox
* The bike rack loaded with your bikes (and ready for the road)
* Loading your bikes on the bike rack via the NDS drainage channel

Finally, where do you store the NDS?
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:25 PM   #17
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Thanks for the thoughtful post NeedMoreLeisureTime!


Between the hitch and the cab is out for us (we are getting a toolbox/aux fuel tank installed).


Now, back to mounting on the back of the 5er...This is good to hear! I will look into the Kuat Rack. Even though the Thule "E-bike" rack is "rated" to carry 2 Pedegos (that's a combined weight of @ 105#) the Thule rep told our Pedaego dealer that he did not recommend RV mounting. Hopefully this will not be the case with the Kuat!
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:10 PM   #18
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Okay. One minor "white lie". I did not weld the receiver to the pin box. Would if did it over. Instead I made a bridle frame to accomplish same thing. Thought might trade, and wanted to keep bike rig. I'll try to upload the pictures here. Assuming successful, what you will see is:
1. Bike rack mounted on 2" tube, which sets inside a 2" receiver. Receiver is welded to a bridle frame over the pin box. Also, a gasoline boat tank that serves my on-board Onan 5500.
2. In one of the pictures you will see a GMC HD2500 Duramax with rooftop mounting trays for 4 more bikes. We take grandkids when we can.

Sorry, wet outside and not up to putting the bikes on the rack right now.

This rig travels with NO PROBLEMS. I made a wooden version of this before welding up the frame. Critical items are getting the bikes up over the cab, and making sure the handlebars and pedals clear the front cap. Like I said, would weld the receiver to the pin box if had a do-over, and have seen that on another rig. Oh, the channel comes in 10' sections. Cut to 8' so I could carry in 5th front pass-thru compartment. Put a small alum angle (4" lg) on one end to keep from sliding off the truck fender when loading.
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