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Old 07-28-2015, 02:00 PM   #21
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My solution is the Biolite camp stove. I use treated wood chips - currently using the pecan bag from the grilling section at Lowes. Paper plates and paper towels make great firestarters when added to the sawdust style firestarters (also bought at Lowes grill section) if there are no twigs around the campsite.

This gives me the smell (and marshmallow grilling capability) of a campfire with little mess and no need to buy firewood.

You can charge anything with a USB such as a cell phone via the USB port on the stove once it gets going. I don't bother as I have better ways to charge items. But, it is great for using a USB light to see while getting the fire going.
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Old 07-28-2015, 02:23 PM   #22
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Isn't it great these things came from de-regulation to facilitate trade and now we are regulated by county or closer just soooooo dumb. The invasive beetles came in and our jobs left, sorry just my 2 cents.
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Living in Arizona, I can only remember once in the last 5 years where we were allowed to have a campfire. Of course, it was late January, but it made our camping experience nicer. For a few years, we could carry a portable fire pit, but seems like lately, even charcoal grills are banned, only propane allowed.

Last winter, we bought a Campfire in a Can, and while it isn't exactly like a campfire, it is better than nothing. We also like the fact that once we've done the hot dogs and marshmallows, and enjoyed the fire for awhile, we can turn it off without the need to throw water or dirt over it. The other plus is that it doesn't smoke and bother my asthma, allowing me to stay outside longer at night.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:39 PM   #24
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I didn't know about the propane rings. What a great idea. We used to enjoy an outdoor fire more than we do now..., but you know one can truly go camping without a fire. If it is going to ruin it for future generations, can we do without or find something else. I've been looking at some black bark pine beetles and see the damage they can do. Not transporting them is fine with me. Let's look after the woods and our planet. I want my grandchildren to be able to enjoy the outdoors as much as we do.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:51 PM   #25
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Like the wood

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Sorry I'll be sticking to good old wood I like the smell. Take the chain saw there are always dead trees laying around were we go. Happy Camping enjoy.
Agree completely with the good old wood. It wouldn't seem like camping to us without a crackling campfire. Where we camp use of a chainsaw is prohibited, though the camp host has said if he doesn't get any complaints he won't see my electric chainsaw. My answer is a bow saw using either driftwood or downed trees. We go camping with the grandkids, and gathering the wood keeps them busy while we do the setup. Cutting the wood to useable lengths helps keep me in shape too. I tell the DW I'm already in shape. Round is a shape, right?
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And when it comes to grilling,,,,,I'll take charcoal over propane any day.
I bring along my charcoal grill, a 12 inch round model that will cook enough for four when I want to do that. I especially like shrimp on the BBQ. However, a quick hot dog or burger cooked over an open propane fire in a basket still tastes mighty good and is a lot faster to accomplish then starting a charcoal fire. Cooking is JUST a side benefit of the propane fire pit, not the main reason I bought it.

So I can have my charcoal grill and my propane fire pit too.
google ... portable outdoor propane fire pit
for many choices

It is that crappy SP firewood that creates so many smokey fires that I dislike so much. Not always easy to Id local firewood sources especially if you are traveling in unfamiliar territory.
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I didn't know about the propane rings. What a great idea. We used to enjoy an outdoor fire more than we do now..., but you know one can truly go camping without a fire. If it is going to ruin it for future generations, can we do without or find something else. I've been looking at some black bark pine beetles and see the damage they can do. Not transporting them is fine with me. Let's look after the woods and our planet. I want my grandchildren to be able to enjoy the outdoors as much as we do.
Carry the wood or not, the bugs are already here, so they will migrate by themselves weather you like it or not.
Maybe a little slower if the wood is not moved over great distance, but there is no stopping it.
Most of these bugs come from Asia and overseas...and they have no natural predator in our forests.
So trees are going to die no matter what we do.
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I just wonder where "local" firewood comes from. Its not cut on the cg property so someone is cutting and hauling it from somewhere else. I asked cg manager where his for-sale firewood came from. His reply. "Jake gets it somewhere and keeps me (cg) stocked."
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I just wonder where "local" firewood comes from. Its not cut on the cg property so someone is cutting and hauling it from somewhere else. I asked cg manager where his for-sale firewood came from. His reply. "Jake gets it somewhere and keeps me (cg) stocked."
As you should surely know, THAT will depend entirely upon the Region and even style of CG in which you Camp.

In most Western States - where we are spending most every Penny of our State and National Forest Budgets on either Wildfire Fighting or on Tree Disease/Beetle Damage Mitigation, things are quite a bit tighter than in the Hardwood Forests Back-East. And we DO know where most of our CG Firewood comes from - the remainders of the Dead Trees which previously used to Shade the Camp Sites before they became Casualities of whichever species of Beetle-Kill happens to be striking in that specific area; or if a bit more Proactive then the results of Thinning Operations meant to provide some protection from the Inevitable next Major Wildfire (likely to be Human-Caused from someone who decided they like to Build Campfires much more than to work to ensure they are Out)..
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Not to say this isn't a valid concern, but enforcing buy where you burn it will be about as hard as trying to make boaters make sure their hulls are free of zebra muscles when they take the boat out of the lake ... alot of campers just won't take the time. Like mentioned ... I like a good wood fire and know how to fire up the ole Stihl to make that happen.
Visit our part of the World - where one CANNOT drop a Boat into the Water until it has been Inspected On-site by State or Local Fish&Game Employees. We don't necessarily Like such Intrusive Inspections, but they are Forced upon us because of the Yahoo's who decide to Flaunt Such Rules and propagate these Pests from Lake-to-Lake.

Similarly the Cut-your-Own-whether-Permitted-or-Not Crowd means that we now face the requirement of Visiting a Ranger Station on a Weekday in order to (hopefully) be granted a Firewood Harvesting Permit, else face a Stiff Fine or Jail Time or Banishment from National Forests if Caught doing so without one.
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