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Old 09-26-2016, 07:57 PM   #191
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Originally Posted by spock123 View Post
I have walked more than 800 miles on the Appalachian Trail and spent a many night cooking and I have yet to build a campfire. I take a white gas stove, it's far easier and quicker plus you don't have to look firewood. Camping to me is a lot more than building a campfire.

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I agree that a Svea stove or grasshopper butane stove is ideal for backpacking, solo bicycle touring, kayak touring, and survival situations. The small, efficient stove warms your tea, freeze-dried meals, and oatmeal. In these situations the self-propelled travel is what the entire trip is about; the joy of enjoying nature through the endorphin-altered state of self-powered mobility.

But, at the top of this page it says "Forest River Forums". While backpackers, bicycle tourists, kayak tourists, and climbers will certainly be on these pages, the primary topic is utilizing the recreational vehicles manufactured by Forest River. Efficiency at altitude, manic obsession over grams of weight, environmental considerations of white gas vs butane vs propane is not an issue here. Forest River products are primarily used by families, and wood fire experiences are a great part of that experience.

By the way, go to and look at the 2016 brochure for the Rockwood ultralight tralers currently manufactured. The cover shows a campfire in front of a camper with two chairs and a beautiful background. Why? Forest River knows that is what sells campers; the experience of enjoying family and friends around a campfire while seeing and enjoying beautiful views of our countryside after a day of recreation. A wood campfire; not a propane, white gas, electric, pellet, manufactured wax, charcoal, nor candle. A wood campfire serves as the focal point for fellowship among the majority of Forest River purchasers.

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Old 09-26-2016, 08:22 PM   #192
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I think this thread is just one of the many reasons why this forum is so great. The discovery of so many different opinions among our group while remaining fairly civil and respectful of each other. I've been on (and left) other fora where this was not the case!

I was a scout, too (regrettably left before making Eagle), and I think camping and other outdoor pursuits, and the personal skills they require like frugality, ingenuity, etc., make campers in general a pretty great group of people, along with the fact that we leave wood for those who come after, whether that's meant to include only those who occupy your site or an expanded viewpoint to include anyone who can use it.

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Old 09-26-2016, 09:59 PM   #193
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I was an Eagle Scout myself and I could tell great stores of my adventures, the main reason I like camping with just the necessities. Just too old to sleep on the ground anymore.

I very rarely use the propane stove in the camper, except to make my morning coffee and maybe toss a couple eggs and bacon. Everything else is cooked on a fire burned down to coals....

Finally, nothing beats a good steak (or a cheap one) grilled on a wood fire burned down to coals, or burgers for that matter.

They are even good when they fall off the grate and drop in the

My wife and I kicked around getting a motor home or a pull trailer but because we like to boondock, neither work for us. Can't get a motorhome out in the boonies and can't pull a trailer down a fire road or seasonal road, well maybe one time and then it becomes a summer home because the axles get torn off...

My wife (and I) like the security of a camper with a door and sleeping off the ground but we don't need ac or sat tv or all that luxury stuff. We have that at home. The truck camper also affords us a good night's sleep without mosquitoes or black flies eating their dinner as we sleep...

Going to bed and listening to the crickets and an ocasional screech owl and having it dark (as in you cannot see your hand in front of your face) and getting up an hearing the birds chirping (without any sounds of children or other campers milling about) is hard to beat. We have never stayed in a campground (except going to horse shows), I don't like them. If I wanted that, I'd live in the city. I live in the boonies as well. I farm.

I wouldn't even have a sine wave generator except I sleep on a CPAP machine and it's hard on the house battery when the sine wave inverter is running all night so the genny is there to keep the house battery charged. It never runs when we sleep. Don't like the sound.

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Old 09-27-2016, 06:57 AM   #194
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I think the reason that campgrounds have signs up that say you can't use firewood from home is to sell more of there firewood. I was Bar Harbor last week and I saw camp wood so much I thought it was a campground.

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Old 09-27-2016, 07:38 AM   #195
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In my neck of the woods we figure people leave wood behind because they are not interested in packing it home ... thus the harvesting of wood left behind is common whether we burn it on site or pack it up and use it for another camping trip. It's just the luck of the draw on who grabs it up first.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:54 AM   #196
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Scouting has done you well my friend. And it is still taught that same way today in the BSA. Sadly, the enrollment has dropped off, but the scout way is still strong, alive and taught to the lucky boys who discover scouting. Scouts honor.
I was a Scoutmaster for 10 years and retired from it last year. When our troop rolls into an area we cut and stack wood and leave it for the next group in a neat stack. It doesn't matter WHAT campsite. The scouting experience does teach good wood/camp ethics. At a campground, I will buy wood. Or it is rainy I put our propane pit under the awning and veg out. I will leave wood behind but I don't care who gets it and never really thought about it. I still won't. If am into a camp and have not yet acquired wood I will look around to see if there is some left behind to get me going. I don't count on it and I certainly don't look down on people who use wood like this.

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Old 09-27-2016, 09:44 AM   #197
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Random thoughts ...
1. Wood is a crop.
2. It is sadly laughable that the government can screw up firewood.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:22 AM   #198
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Random thoughts ...
1. Wood is a crop.
2. It is sadly laughable that the government can screw up firewood.
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After watching the debate I can understand how the gov screws up most things. It also appears it gonna get worse!!! 😂
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:29 AM   #199
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:38 AM   #200
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Exactly. I have no problem with someone gathering leftover firewood but dont take it home. Leave it for someone who can use it tonight.

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