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Old 08-02-2019, 07:27 AM   #1
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First Time Out

Well today I am rolling out with the new TT on a couple day tryout camp. (203RBK)
Dont have it fully loaded yet obviously since its a week old, but I have most of my basics in it it already.
Great thing is I have CAT scales right here less than a mile from my house, they are rarely busy so I can keep up with any changes pretty easily.
Looking forward to just chilling in the woods for 4 days/3nights and learning how the new home fits.
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:22 AM   #2
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Enjoy!
The first trip out is always a new adventure for sure but also a gateway for better things to come.
It's all about the journey!
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:51 PM   #3
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Disastrous start

As many have posted itís the CAT SCALES topic, some of these people need training.
I had the CAT scale operator near me threaten to call the police until I got the manager involved and he dismissed the person who was being a belligerent ass.

I went to weigh, they came on the intercom... Do you need a weight? I said
yes I am using the weight my truck app. They come back ok, got it. I did my weigh, and as a semi had rolled up I pulled off and let him weigh while I disconnected the WDH.
Rolled back on the scales. Operator comes back asking what I need.
I say, I am weighing my trailer but I need to do 3 weighs to get all my info in the CAT app. Again... ok got it. I hit weigh and pull off to drop the TT.
This time I come back, no one comes on the intercom I hit weigh.. sit there a minute and it says, see scale operator for ticket, trouble communicating with scale.

I go inside, I say I need my third weigh, she says, you didnít do a third weight you never came back. I replied, Iím pretty sure I remember how many times I pulled up on the scale. She says no you owe me $13.50 for two weighs.
I reply no I paid with my app. She replies yes you paid for two with your app and the two I did. I look at her and say why did you weight my truck? I donít need your weight I just need my 3rd... it went around and around escalating in intensity until I just said you know what Iím on vacation and I am done arguing with you Iíll find another station. I leave, she comes running out the door screaming ďIím calling the policeĒ you owe me 13.50 and made a move to grab me when I said, if you touch me I guarantee youíll need the police. Finally the manager walks out sends her away and we had a calm discussion where I showed him the app, and I said I had no idea what she had weighed me for since I had told her, as well as she could obviously SEE I was using the app. He graciously handed me all four slips, apologized, and I was able to sort out the 3 weighs (which she said didnít happen LOL)

Gross Combined Weight
8,600

Truck Weight (hitched + WDH engaged)
4,860

Truck Weight (hitched; no WDH)
5,100

Truck Weight (truck only)
4,360

Camper Weight
4,420

Tongue Weight
740

Tongue Weight Percentage
16.7 %

Quite happy with the first load out, that was about 75% of all my gear and it was not as organized as I would have liked but overall it turned out well.

After the initial troubles the trip was great, met some great people, and have some plans already for next weekend when I may be doing the tube run down the river a few miles.

Happy trails.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:25 AM   #4
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Question Towing Setup

I'm thinking of getting the 203BK and would like to know more about your towing setup. I believe you have a Nissan Frontier for your TV which is similar to my Tacoma. Please forgive my ignorance, but does your WDH allow you to go over your TV tongue rating? My tv says its limit is 600 lb. So I guess what I want to know is, does the WDH allow me to exceed this limit?
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:33 AM   #5
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I'm thinking of getting the 203BK and would like to know more about your towing setup. I believe you have a Nissan Frontier for your TV which is similar to my Tacoma. Please forgive my ignorance, but does your WDH allow you to go over your TV tongue rating? My tv says its limit is 600 lb. So I guess what I want to know is, does the WDH allow me to exceed this limit?
Typically there are 2 weights listed on the sticker - one for weight carrying and one for weight distributing.



Do you have a sticker on your hitch that looks something like this?
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A WDH doesn't reduce tongue weight, it just distributes it to the front truck wheels and to the camper's wheels. I think you can still NOT exceed the tongue weight rating of the hitch itself.

See this post/graphic/discussion:
weight distribution hitch/bars affect on tongue weight
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Old 09-06-2019, 10:35 PM   #7
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Typically there are 2 weights listed on the sticker - one for weight carrying and one for weight distributing.



Do you have a sticker on your hitch that looks something like this?
I could not find the sticker you refer to. I have found out that I have much to learn about the subject and have been busy trying to study it further. It seems like you can make an untenable towing system tenable by using a WDH to overcome limitations like tongue weight. I very much appreciate learning from your experience.

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As many have posted itís the CAT SCALES topic, some of these people need training.
I had the CAT scale operator near me threaten to call the police until I got the manager involved and he dismissed the person who was being a belligerent ass.

I went to weigh, they came on the intercom... Do you need a weight? I said
yes I am using the weight my truck app. They come back ok, got it. I did my weigh, and as a semi had rolled up I pulled off and let him weigh while I disconnected the WDH.
Rolled back on the scales. Operator comes back asking what I need.
I say, I am weighing my trailer but I need to do 3 weighs to get all my info in the CAT app. Again... ok got it. I hit weigh and pull off to drop the TT.
This time I come back, no one comes on the intercom I hit weigh.. sit there a minute and it says, see scale operator for ticket, trouble communicating with scale.

I go inside, I say I need my third weigh, she says, you didnít do a third weight you never came back. I replied, Iím pretty sure I remember how many times I pulled up on the scale. She says no you owe me $13.50 for two weighs.
I reply no I paid with my app. She replies yes you paid for two with your app and the two I did. I look at her and say why did you weight my truck? I donít need your weight I just need my 3rd... it went around and around escalating in intensity until I just said you know what Iím on vacation and I am done arguing with you Iíll find another station. I leave, she comes running out the door screaming ďIím calling the policeĒ you owe me 13.50 and made a move to grab me when I said, if you touch me I guarantee youíll need the police. Finally the manager walks out sends her away and we had a calm discussion where I showed him the app, and I said I had no idea what she had weighed me for since I had told her, as well as she could obviously SEE I was using the app. He graciously handed me all four slips, apologized, and I was able to sort out the 3 weighs (which she said didnít happen LOL)

Gross Combined Weight
8,600

Truck Weight (hitched + WDH engaged)
4,860

Truck Weight (hitched; no WDH)
5,100

Truck Weight (truck only)
4,360

Camper Weight
4,420

Tongue Weight
740

Tongue Weight Percentage
16.7 %

Quite happy with the first load out, that was about 75% of all my gear and it was not as organized as I would have liked but overall it turned out well.

After the initial troubles the trip was great, met some great people, and have some plans already for next weekend when I may be doing the tube run down the river a few miles.

Happy trails.
Scotch2cubes, Just out of curiosity, which camper do you own? Your weights seem similar to my 2109S

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