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Old 10-08-2019, 07:12 AM   #1
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Floor plan, Floor plan, Floor plan...

Like location, location, location in Real Estate.

After two trouble-free seasons with our Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s we found a floor plan that we think will work better for us. We are planning to do longer trips across country and felt the extra space of the new unit would be better while still allowing us to keep it in our driveway.

Our 2104s has been a very solid trailer without “any” issues at all. Unfortunately, FR didn’t have the floor plan that fit our likes/dislikes. We recently placed an order for a new 2020 floor plan; Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/22mle

We’re hoping it will be as trouble free as our 2104s.

I’ve learned so much from the folks on this Forum and I intend to stick around.
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Agree. Well be moving to a different RV manufacturer, when we make our next purchase. We found the almost perfect floorplan for us, from another company that makes it in a TT and a 5th wheel.
If FR had anything close to it, we'd be staying with FR.
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That is a nice layout. Would love just a little more counter space, but it's still nice.
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Agree. Well be moving to a different RV manufacturer, when we make our next purchase. We found the almost perfect floorplan for us, from another company that makes it in a TT and a 5th wheel.
If FR had anything close to it, we'd be staying with FR.
Dan any chance you could share the floor plan ...
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Dan any chance you could share the floor plan ...
The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:36 PM   #6
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Tigger1, Grand Design makes higher-end RVs than Rockwood, so I think you will be very pleased. I noticed that along with the added length, you are going to gaining a lot more weight. I hope your Tundra will be up to the task.
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The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
Nice ... Neighbor just got 2020 Open Range 37' mid bunk and it is nice but big .... we have Rockwood 2888WS and could not be happier ... and 32' gets us in the state parks ... we love out door kitchen with 4 cubic ft frig and yes theater seats in front of TV... Thanks Frank
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we have Rockwood 2888WS and could not be happier ... and 32' gets us in the state parks ... we love out door kitchen with 4 cubic ft frig and yes theater seats in front of TV... Thanks Frank
The DW absolutely will not have a rear living floorplan. She hates people having to walk through her kitchen, to sit in the living area.
That's why rear kitchen or front kitchen models are the only choice.
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Tigger1, Grand Design makes higher-end RVs than Rockwood, so I think you will be very pleased. I noticed that along with the added length, you are going to gaining a lot more weight. I hope your Tundra will be up to the task.
Thanks, I hope it’s as solid as the Mini Lite!

As for the weight their website GVWR doesn’t appear to be correct at 6995#. The one we saw in person which was sold had 6395# see photo. Others on RV Trader that have that sticker photo are 6395#. We’ve always packed lite and carry no water so we will be under that number by several hundred lbs. It’s just the DW and me so the Tundra should not have any problems.

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I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.



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Old 10-08-2019, 06:23 PM   #11
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I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.



This is the TT of my dreams.
We saw and sat in several Lance TT’s at the Hershey RV Show a few weeks ago. Very nice and they all had a “richness” feeling to them.
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The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
DW and I looked at a OR/HR 2410RL a few months back that she really liked. A couple weeks ago I saw my dealer has a new for 2020 floor plan by Prime Time, 24 RKS. Need to get to dealer to get a closer look. The OR 2410RL has Castle Rock LR C tires, but the PT has LR D. Been happy with our current PT and enjoy being part of the FR family. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
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I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.



This is the TT of my dreams.
That's an awesome trailer. I still have two young kids that we camp with, but I just sent that to The Wife as an example of the perfect camper when we retire and it is just the two of us. Very nice setup. If only they could have found a way to incorporate an actual door to separate the bedroom. I don't know why (since you can hear everything that happens in a camper), but The Wife and I really enjoy the cat that we have an actual wooden door to close off our bedroom.
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I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.



This is the TT of my dreams.
Did you look at the TT version of the 280RKS? Almost everything is the same.
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DW and I looked at a OR/HR 2410RL a few months back that she really liked. A couple weeks ago I saw my dealer has a new for 2020 floor plan by Prime Time, 24 RKS. Need to get to dealer to get a closer look. The OR 2410RL has Castle Rock LR C tires, but the PT has LR D. Been happy with our current PT and enjoy being part of the FR family. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
we currently have the predecessor to the Tracer Breeze line, a TracerAir 255.
the DW would hate the 24RKS because the entry door goes right into the kitchen. so anyone coming in to sit down or use the bathroom, has to walk through the kitchen to get to anything. our 255 model has the entry door entering into the living area, with the kitchen in the back. and the bathroom is to the right.
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Congrats Tigger1!

When we were shopping last year for a <35' 5er our favorite floorplan was in a Keystone Cougar but when I saw staples under the kitchen cabinets that was a no go. They use a few other things I wasn't comfortable with compared to our Rockwood TT. We ended up sticking with Rockwood Signature and a floorplan we are quite happy with.
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Congrats Tigger1!

When we were shopping last year for a <35' 5er our favorite floorplan was in a Keystone Cougar but when I saw staples under the kitchen cabinets that was a no go. They use a few other things I wasn't comfortable with compared to our Rockwood TT. We ended up sticking with Rockwood Signature and a floorplan we are quite happy with.
All of the RV builders have their head scratching moments ... we went with Rockwood after looking at many ... the aluminum framing and vacuum wrapping/sealing sold me ...
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The 22MLE has a leaf spring suspension. I think we’ll have to pack extra careful in the rear kitchen to prevent things from bouncing around.

I’ll also be changing out the two ceilling vents (bath & kitchen) that have the small little tiny fan to the Maxxair Maxxfan DLX low profile. The dinette cushions are a little soft too so a trip to our local Foam store will be needed. It also comes with roller shades in all windows. Will see how they turn out.
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The 22MLE has a leaf spring suspension. I think we’ll have to pack extra careful in the rear kitchen to prevent things from bouncing around.

I’ll also be changing out the two ceilling vents (bath & kitchen) that have the small little tiny fan to the Maxxair Maxxfan DLX low profile. The dinette cushions are a little soft too so a trip to our local Foam store will be needed. It also comes with roller shades in all windows. Will see how they turn out.
1, look at adding shocks. They aren't too expensive but the installation can get pricey if you don't do the work yourself. It could help with the bounciness.

2, for foam, price out www.foambymail.com vs. locally. I've ordered from them 3-4 times now and have been extremely pleased. They were 1/2 the price of what a upholstery shop wanted for foam.
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1, look at adding shocks. They aren't too expensive but the installation can get pricey if you don't do the work yourself. It could help with the bounciness.

2, for foam, price out www.foambymail.com vs. locally. I've ordered from them 3-4 times now and have been extremely pleased. They were 1/2 the price of what a upholstery shop wanted for foam.
Thank you for the ideas!
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