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07-11-2016, 11:07 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Forest River Grey Wolf 27DBS
New here and looking to get into the RV world. Family of four and are considering the Grey Wolf 27DBS. Really like the layout of it, especially the outside door for the bathroom. Problem is, I've been told by Berryland RV that the Grey Wolf is a very low quality RV so now I'm leery of going with it. The sales guy said the floor was very thin and that I should consider other lines. I tried to find some information concerning Grey Wolf construction on the web but not luck. I did call Forest River and only got voice mail. Any ideas on where to find what type of construction these are made up of? Thanks for any guidance you can provide.
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07-11-2016, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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I can't help on comparing. I owned a 26DBH for 3 years, and it was great. I loved it. Everything on it worked as advertised (except the common kitchen faucet), and it had a ton of storage, and seemed sturdy. I did use scissor jacks to help stablize when set up, which helped a lot.
They are the 'stick and tin' type campers..........not the laminated sides (though the front partially is). Some think that is cheaper, and some think it's better.
Depends on what you can afford. I suggest you spend more time researching more types, and put your hands and eyes on some of them.
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07-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Site Team
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It's stick n' tin construction, generally for entry level trailers.
Many features are options on them, that are standard on the aluminum /filon construction trailers.
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07-11-2016, 12:59 PM
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Who Dares, Wins
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
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My "entry level" trailer is better constructed than my much more expensive Rockwood was... I have no regrets.
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07-11-2016, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 108
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I recently purchased a 2016 Grey Wolf 23DBH this year and it's been great. I know it's not a top of the line travel trailer but seems like it's made well, I'd say middle of the road quality. We looked at many trailers and this one fit our budget and had many of the options that I was looking for in a camper. I don't think you'd be disappointed.
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07-11-2016, 01:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I can't help on comparing. I owned a 26DBH for 3 years, and it was great. I loved it. Everything on it worked as advertised (except the common kitchen faucet), and it had a ton of storage, and seemed sturdy. I did use scissor jacks to help stablize when set up, which helped a lot.
They are the 'stick and tin' type campers..........not the laminated sides (though the front partially is). Some think that is cheaper, and some think it's better.
Depends on what you can afford. I suggest you spend more time researching more types, and put your hands and eyes on some of them.
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just curious what you mean by "common kitchen faucet"?
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07-11-2016, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Sorry. I meant it is common for ALL RV's to have a fault with the kitchen faucet, and ours had to be replaced in that unit.......which was the only problem that we had.
Even our brand new 'spensive one, the kitchen faucet is leaking.
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07-11-2016, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Jordan, UT
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I have an EVO 2850 (similar to the Grey Wolf), they are considered "entry level" but there is nothing wrong with it. I love my EVO! I would buy it again. It is important to do a solid/exhaustive PDI when buying, this will alleviate a lot of problems down the road. So far I have had no major issue in the year and a half I have owned it.
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07-11-2016, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NE Florida
Posts: 962
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I would describe low end as having plastic plumbing fixtures, sinks, faucets and toilet. Non ducted air and metal sides get riding on 13-14" tires with 3,500 lb axles.
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07-11-2016, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired JSO
I would describe low end as having plastic plumbing fixtures, sinks, faucets and toilet. Non ducted air and metal sides get riding on 13-14" tires with 3,500 lb axles.
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Weird...my Grey Wolf has ducted air...and most TT's have the plastic accoutrements you're referring to. When you get into the 25k price range, you will see 15" tires, but with GW, you're talking about under a 20k TT. The axles and tires are more than adequate to carry what is loaded on it.
Where I've noticed cutbacks are:
No light switches
Construction of aluminum on the outside and where it attaches to the floor (Fiberglass IS an option and I would strongly consider you look at it)
My unit doesn't have a tub surround, but I think that's changed in 2017.
Fabrics on trim is THIN.
Blinds are thin and don't block the light.
There are many of the same Lippert components in the Grey Wolf that you'll find in the units you'll pay thousands more for. There are also many cheaper units than the Grey Wolf (IE Shasta Oasis) that are BARELY cheaper, and have A LOT less options on them AND they look cheap.
That's not to say that if you spend 5K more you won't see differences, but the question you have to ask yourself is are they going to matter worth 5K?
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07-11-2016, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NE Florida
Posts: 962
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Forest River Grey Wolf 27DBS
My 25WBLE, 2016 W&P has filon sides, 5200 axles, 15" tires , ducted ac, plastic sinks and faucets, china toilet and can be bought for less than $25k. http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2017...Play-118601814
I actually got mine for less than 20k
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07-11-2016, 02:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired JSO
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That's also a Toy Hauler, where 5200 lb axles and 15" Tires are necessary to get the weight rating to haul toys around. The OP is looking at a 27ft TT that has a Max weight of 7700 Lbs and an unloaded weight of 6200 lbs.
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07-11-2016, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: PSL Florida
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After our researching and purchase we found grey wolf to be a respectable entry level camper for the price point that we would have gotten, but liked the use of space (flush with floor slide and pass through storage) and features of the Cherokee limited a little more. Plus we found a dealer with an awesome price on the Cherokee.
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07-11-2016, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NE Florida
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Not to argue but OP had said something about entry level, then I gave my 2 cents
in what I thought was entry level as to look for. Don't get all wound up in this stuff, life is too short.
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07-11-2016, 08:28 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
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I really like our Grey Wolf 23DBH. I think they are well made. Would love to upgrade to a bigger and lighter TT.
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07-12-2016, 01:00 PM
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RiderBloke
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: On the Road
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Choosing the TT
Spend as much time researching the dealer as the TT. I did and it has paid off. I bought a Grey Wolf 26RR and have towed it 5,500 miles since March last year and have lived in it for 3 - 4 months over winter in FL and been on several other short trips. Very little trouble but it is the dealer who makes the difference between good and bad experiences. My dealer has been excellent so far.
Good luck to you.
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07-12-2016, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Ohio
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This is our 6th season with our 26bh. We spend 30+ nights a year in it, including local camping and vacations. Been to Yellowstone, Myrtle beachX2, GettysburgX3, Rehoboth beach X2, etc. Have had 0 problems. Keep things maintained like tires, and wheel bearings and you should be fine.
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07-12-2016, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chale
New here and looking to get into the RV world. Family of four and are considering the Grey Wolf 27DBS. Really like the layout of it, especially the outside door for the bathroom. Problem is, I've been told by Berryland RV that the Grey Wolf is a very low quality RV so now I'm leery of going with it. The sales guy said the floor was very thin and that I should consider other lines. I tried to find some information concerning Grey Wolf construction on the web but not luck. I did call Forest River and only got voice mail. Any ideas on where to find what type of construction these are made up of? Thanks for any guidance you can provide.
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I read this as a salesman looking to upsell you to a more profitable model. Most salesman are not going to steer you away from a sale unless they have something more profitable in mind. Camper quality will be mostly the same at similar price points. Higher the msrp the more quality and also the more potential profit. Also never fall for the 120-240 month low monthly payment finance plan. You will regret it.
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07-12-2016, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I had/have a Cherokee first one was a lite 28A then we bought the bigger 32B. Both were/are very nice trailers. I consider hen mid level trailers. Lots of standard features that are optional on other trailers. Very solidly built. Some other ones we walked through I thought they would break once it was on the road. Floors hat weren't well supported, walls that were very thin and springy. Bed platform with no hinge or lift struts, etc. etc. etc.
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07-12-2016, 03:18 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Stevensville
Posts: 87
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28BH grey wolf
We bought a 2012 grey wolf this spring and absolutely love it. Even though it was pre owned everything works on it like new. Not disappointed with it at all. Much better made than the trail sport we had before it! Good luck.
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