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Old 10-01-2015, 02:40 PM   #11
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I have had a 32 foot V-Cross fiver, $29,000 and a 38 foot Wildcat fiver, $49,300. There is no comparison, the V-Cross was made cheaply and the Wildcat has impressive appointments. Almost every thing in the Wildcat is of higher quality. Good Luck
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:58 PM   #12
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Of course there is a hierarchy. The build quality and materials used in construction of a Cedar Creek vs. Salem or Flagstaff or most other FR brands is completely different. There are also major differences between Forest River and the subsideraries it owns, Dynamax, Coachmen, Shasta, Palomino, and Prime Time.
You are only fooling yourself if you think a $100,000+ fifth wheel is the same as a $35,000 fifth wheel.
Having said that there are some FR brands that are the same such as the Flagstaff/Rockwood line.
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That's how I see it too.
Completly agree. Unfortunately there are a few folks out there who get a base unit and expect it to have the quality build of a Riverstone.

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So, what's the general order?
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In what class? Motorhome, Class C, Travel Trailer, 5er Toy Hauler or...?

This is what I know from our research:

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Berkshire XLT (Tag Axle)
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Georgetown

5th Wheel - full size
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Cardinal - Cedar Creek (Almost a tie)
Blue Ridge - Cedar Creek Silverback
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:00 PM   #13
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I'm thinking more the latter. It's a distribution thing. That line about Amish craftsmanship is just that...a line. Some brands appear to have different levels of creature features and comfort, stick and tin construction vs. smooth side etc

When we were in Goshen at the national rally we saw lots of Amish craftsmen working on units, including ours.


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Old 10-01-2015, 09:30 PM   #14
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Of course there is a hierarchy. The build quality and materials used in construction of a Cedar Creek vs. Salem or Flagstaff or most other FR brands is completely different. There are also major differences between Forest River and the subsideraries it owns, Dynamax, Coachmen, Shasta, Palomino, and Prime Time.
You are only fooling yourself if you think a $100,000+ fifth wheel is the same as a $35,000 fifth wheel.
Having said that there are some FR brands that are the same such as the Flagstaff/Rockwood line.
So the question would be does the quality increase keep up with increase in price or does the price increase faster than the quality.
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Price increases vs quality increase is far far from equal.


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Price increases vs quality increase is far far from equal.


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Old 10-01-2015, 10:06 PM   #17
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The Salem 27TDSS is the same floorplan as my Evo. When I looked at the Salem I could instantly tell the Evo had higher quality materials. So I would say yes, some sub-brands of FR are higher quality than others.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:31 PM   #18
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Completly agree. Unfortunately there are a few folks out there who get a base unit and expect it to have the quality build of a Riverstone.



In what class? Motorhome, Class C, Travel Trailer, 5er Toy Hauler or...?

This is what I know from our research:

MotorHome
Charleston
Berkshire XLT (Tag Axle)
Berkshire XL
Berkshire
Georgetown

5th Wheel - full size
Rivrstone
Cardinal - Cedar Creek (Almost a tie)
Blue Ridge - Cedar Creek Silverback
(Not enough research to rank the rest)

5th Wheel - Ultralight
Rockwood
Flagstaff


Toy Hauler
Vengeance - XLR Thunderbolt AMP (almost a tie)

From what Ive seen,the cherokke wolf pack fwth is made out of left over parts and pieces.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:04 AM   #19
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Of course there is a hierarchy. The build quality and materials used in construction of a Cedar Creek vs. Salem or Flagstaff or most other FR brands is completely different. There are also major differences between Forest River and the subsideraries it owns, Dynamax, Coachmen, Shasta, Palomino, and Prime Time.
You are only fooling yourself if you think a $100,000+ fifth wheel is the same as a $35,000 fifth wheel.
Having said that there are some FR brands that are the same such as the Flagstaff/Rockwood line.
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That's how I see it too.
Same here.


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So, what's the general order?
I'd say, look at the cost and rank them that way.

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But why? There are issues and lemons in every brand (within FR and within the entire industry). There are also great units.

Why worry about a ranking? You bought what you like- no sense in feeling inferior to your neighbor or looking down your nose at the other. Who freaking cares? We all buy what we like.

And I'm going to go oogle the New Horizons RVs again...
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:40 AM   #20
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Same here.

And I'm going to go oogle the New Horizons RVs again...
I live about 30 miles from where they are built... If you need info I can try to find out for you or get pictures.
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