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Old 06-03-2016, 10:16 AM   #31
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All 3 of my neighbors who have campers that are overweight. Each one has been sold their campers by camping world dealers who assured them their trucks could tow their campers safely.

Neighbor 1: 35' 6" Camper, dry hitch 1025 lbs with a F150 5.0 4x4 that doesn't have a max tow package. His yellow door sticker says 1320 lbs. Did I mention his wife and 2 kids accompany him? Oh, he also has a bed topper that weighs at least 200 lbs and carries two kayaks on the truck also. You should see the squat on his truck! He has commented that the truck is very slow on the steep mountain passes.

Neighbor 2: 35' 10" Outback with dry hitch weight 935 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2012 Ecoboost which does not have a tow package on it. His sticker says 1511 lbs cargo carrying capacity. He tows with DW and 3 children-easily another 500 lbs of weight). His max tow rating is 9600 lbs and is camper dry weight is 7525 lbs. He has P-rated tires, and DOES NOT use a tow mirror, just regular stock mirrors.

Neighbor 3: 37' Jayco with dry pin 2235 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2015 Ram 3/4 ton truck with a 2700lb cargo carrying capacity rating. He has a 200lb fifth wheel hitch in his bed. He brings along his wife and two kids (350 lbs).

Me: 30 foot Wildcat with a 930lb dry pin weight (actual is much higher due to 3 battery banks in front of camper) with an F350. My camper dry weight is about 7300 lbs and loaded up it is about 8500 lbs. I have over a 1000 lbs remaining in cargo carrying capacity with wife and 3 large dogs in truck.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:27 AM   #32
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All 3 of my neighbors who have campers that are overweight. Each one has been sold their campers by camping world dealers who assured them their trucks could tow their campers safely.

Neighbor 1: 35' 6" Camper, dry hitch 1025 lbs with a F150 5.0 4x4 that doesn't have a max tow package. His yellow door sticker says 1320 lbs. Did I mention his wife and 2 kids accompany him? Oh, he also has a bed topper that weighs at least 200 lbs and carries two kayaks on the truck also. You should see the squat on his truck! He has commented that the truck is very slow on the steep mountain passes.

Neighbor 2: 35' 10" Outback with dry hitch weight 935 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2012 Ecoboost which does not have a tow package on it. His sticker says 1511 lbs cargo carrying capacity. He tows with DW and 3 children-easily another 500 lbs of weight). His max tow rating is 9600 lbs and is camper dry weight is 7525 lbs. He has P-rated tires, and DOES NOT use a tow mirror, just regular stock mirrors.

Neighbor 3: 37' Jayco with dry pin 2235 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2015 Ram 3/4 ton truck with a 2700lb cargo carrying capacity rating. He has a 200lb fifth wheel hitch in his bed. He brings along his wife and two kids (350 lbs).

Me: 30 foot Wildcat with a 930lb dry pin weight (actual is much higher due to 3 battery banks in front of camper) with an F350. My camper dry weight is about 7300 lbs and loaded up it is about 8500 lbs. I have over a 1000 lbs remaining in cargo carrying capacity with wife and 3 large dogs in truck.
Pretty much why I want to upgrade from the 2500 to a SRW 350/3500. Not for this camper but for the next one. I like having some "breathing room"
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:53 AM   #33
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All 3 of my neighbors who have campers that are overweight. Each one has been sold their campers by camping world dealers who assured them their trucks could tow their campers safely.

Neighbor 1: 35' 6" Camper, dry hitch 1025 lbs with a F150 5.0 4x4 that doesn't have a max tow package. His yellow door sticker says 1320 lbs. Did I mention his wife and 2 kids accompany him? Oh, he also has a bed topper that weighs at least 200 lbs and carries two kayaks on the truck also. You should see the squat on his truck! He has commented that the truck is very slow on the steep mountain passes.

Neighbor 2: 35' 10" Outback with dry hitch weight 935 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2012 Ecoboost which does not have a tow package on it. His sticker says 1511 lbs cargo carrying capacity. He tows with DW and 3 children-easily another 500 lbs of weight). His max tow rating is 9600 lbs and is camper dry weight is 7525 lbs. He has P-rated tires, and DOES NOT use a tow mirror, just regular stock mirrors.

Neighbor 3: 37' Jayco with dry pin 2235 lbs. His tow vehicle is a 2015 Ram 3/4 ton truck with a 2700lb cargo carrying capacity rating. He has a 200lb fifth wheel hitch in his bed. He brings along his wife and two kids (350 lbs).

Me: 30 foot Wildcat with a 930lb dry pin weight (actual is much higher due to 3 battery banks in front of camper) with an F350. My camper dry weight is about 7300 lbs and loaded up it is about 8500 lbs. I have over a 1000 lbs remaining in cargo carrying capacity with wife and 3 large dogs in truck.
Could you send photos of the back of each of these so we will know to avoid them on the road? Okay, not actually funny...the good Lord protects children and idiots; these are a bit too old be be considered children...so...
It seems that if the hitch on the RV will fit on the truck many folks believe it is good to go.
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I have no problems if you wanna overload yourselves and drive down the road. If you crash and hurt your family, or yourself, that's on YOU.

What I do have a problem with is that these people drive next to and pass me all the time! I've made sure I've done EVERYTHING I can possibly do to make sure my rig is safe for me and my family, and somebody who doesn't give to ***** can screw my life up because of their poor judgement or stubbornness.
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I have no problems if you wanna overload yourselves and drive down the road. If you crash and hurt your family, or yourself, that's on YOU.

What I do have a problem with is that these people drive next to and pass me all the time! I've made sure I've done EVERYTHING I can possibly do to make sure my rig is safe for me and my family, and somebody who doesn't give to ***** can screw my life up because of their poor judgement or stubbornness.
That's pretty much every day life in general.
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I have no problems if you wanna overload yourselves and drive down the road. If you crash and hurt your family, or yourself, that's on YOU.

What I do have a problem with is that these people drive next to and pass me all the time! I've made sure I've done EVERYTHING I can possibly do to make sure my rig is safe for me and my family, and somebody who doesn't give to ***** can screw my life up because of their poor judgement or stubbornness.
And you can bet they will be the first to sue The manufactures. Later RJD
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Half ton towable fifth wheels? OR NOT

The problem with people who act stupidly is that they tend to take out a few innocent bystanders in the process. If you have a death wish, go right ahead, just don't drag me to hell with you.
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I have no problems if you wanna overload yourselves and drive down the road. If you crash and hurt your family, or yourself, that's on YOU.

What I do have a problem with is that these people drive next to and pass me all the time! I've made sure I've done EVERYTHING I can possibly do to make sure my rig is safe for me and my family, and somebody who doesn't give to ***** can screw my life up because of their poor judgement or stubbornness.
Well said. It's unfortunate that some would rather boast about how their grocery getter tows their 5er/TT with no problem while getting 15mpg.
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How is that working? Mileage?

Its working very well, never felt that we've need more power, hauling or stopping (trailer brake gain set mid-way). Brought it home to Michigan from Alabama. Made a couple outings since being home around the state. Mileage depends on terrain... hilly 9.x, flat 11.x
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