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Old 09-16-2018, 07:14 AM   #1
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How Can I Upgrade When There Are No Upgrades?

This weekend was a good one for driving around to dealers close to me in PA because there was little to no sales staff at any of the dealers due to most of them being at the Hershey RV Show. The dealers, for the most part, opened up everything on their lots so people could check out what they had without the help of a salesperson. This made it very relaxing (with no pressure or “puffing” or rushing by a salesperson) to look at everything that needed to be looked at.

I am not really in the market for an upgrade right now, but I wanted to see what’s out there for ideas of what I will like when I am in the market — which could have been this weekend if something really struck me as something I “had to have.” I’m sure you know what I mean by that.

I walked through and around so many fifth wheels (no other types of RVs), I can’t even say how many I toured. I didn’t bother looking at anything that I knew for sure wouldn’t be an upgrade from my 2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W. I looked at Cedar Creek and Cardinal models and many other non-Forest River brands in the $70,000.00 to $107,000.00 (sale price — not list price) range. Of everything I looked at, the Cedar Creek “Champaign” line seemed to be the best built and finished line out there. But nothing came close in overall quality to my current Windjammer.

My wife was distracted and enamored by all of the shiny new appliances, ceiling fans and (mostly) larger bathrooms with double-bowl vanities, but she, too, was of the opinion that our Windjammer is better than EVERYTHING we saw. I really couldn’t believe that the whole time we were looking she didn’t somehow rationalize that “this one is so much nicer and we have to have it.” I was amazed.

I don’t want to get into all of the details of exactly what was and wasn’t better than our Windjammer right now, but I can say there wasn’t much that was better. Sure, any fifth wheel is an upgrade from most travel trailers when it comes to storage and towing, but I expected so much more with the difference in cost when compared to a Windjammer, and it wasn’t there.

How can it not be possible (for me) to find an upgrade when I am looking at spending two to three times the money than I spent on my Windjammer? It seems that I would have to jump up to something like a Riverstone, which I can’t, to get a true upgrade from what I already have.

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Old 09-16-2018, 07:23 AM   #2
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We always go to the shows in Feb, guess its rv cabin fever. Haven't found anything as nice as what we have.
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:27 AM   #3
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We always go to the shows in Feb, guess its rv cabin fever. Haven't found anything as nice as what we have.
I purposely avoided going to the show at Hershey this weekend because I wanted to look at units that werenít prepped for a show. Plus, I didnít want to be distracted by salespeople and pushed through by others wanting to look.

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Old 09-16-2018, 07:33 AM   #4
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it just confirms that you have the camper that suites you (for now). We go to the shows and look around. back when we had our high wall popup, we would look all the new units and come away saying - "nope, what we have is the best for us". But things do change, and our needs change. Our popup suited us well for 6 years. Then saw a new hybrid floorplan that caught our attention. We did not buy at the show, but that hybrid stayed in our minds and we ended up getting it 5 months later. We are now very happy in the hybrid, and we are now going away from the shows with "yep, what we have is the best for us"....but ya never know.
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If you are truly looking for an upgrade and go to Hershey you need to be there during the week. It is much more mellow. We were there yesterday and some units had lines you had to wait in just to enter the model.

But I agree, we felt the same. Nothing struck us as a must have. We love our current unit but I'd say unless it is needed I'd avoid an upgrade. Our previous trailer was light years ahead in build quality from what I see now. And it was just a lonely "entry level model" as so many love to point out.
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:40 AM   #6
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it just confirms that you have the camper that suites you (for now). We go to the shows and look around. back when we had our high wall popup, we would look all the new units and come away saying - "nope, what we have is the best for us". But things do change, and our needs change. Our popup suited us well for 6 years. Then saw a new hybrid floorplan that caught our attention. We did not buy at the show, but that hybrid stayed in our minds and we ended up getting it 5 months later. We are now very happy in the hybrid, and we are now going away from the shows with "yep, what we have is the best for us"....but ya never know.
I agree with you, but my main point is that I couldnít find any upgrades in quality. There were many units I saw that would suit us well as an upgrade as far as floor plans go, but the upgrade in quality just wasnít there.

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Old 09-16-2018, 07:42 AM   #7
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If you are truly looking for an upgrade and go to Hershey you need to be there during the week. It is much more mellow. We were there yesterday and some units had lines you had to wait in just to enter the model.

But I agree, we felt the same. Nothing struck us as a must have. We love our current unit but I'd say unless it is needed I'd avoid an upgrade. Our previous trailer was light years ahead in build quality from what I see now. And it was just a lonely "entry level model" as so many love to point out.
What was your previous trailer?

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Cherokee gray wolf 26dbh. It was a 2014. An entry level model, that was better built than some of the $$ ones imo.
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My wife and I weren't much into "upgrading". We bought what we liked to begin with and then just enjoyed it.

My first TT was a 1972 model that served me well for over 15 years. Next one was a 95 and we used the dickens out of it for 22 years.

I can only guess how long my 2018 will be around.

Same for Tow Vehicles. If it's reliable, does the job, and is comfortable to drive, why spend money upgrading all the time. Current tow vehicle is 14 years old and has just broken the 100K mark. ALL of it towing, not running around town.

For that we used a 25 year old, super comfortable, sedan that even though made in Detroit gave us 28 mpg. Surprising for a full sized car but it only had a 3.3 liter engine in it.

Wife and I used to laugh how we weren't doing our part to help the economy. But we also didn't have any monthly payments for "vehicles".
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Cherokee gray wolf 26dbh. It was a 2014. An entry level model, that was better built than some of the $$ ones imo.

As a former RV salesman I agree that some entry models, or more like a level above entry models such as your Cherokee are just as good of quality as the high end models. I've seen some pretty poor quality 70,000 to 100K (Cdn) units. Quality level is pretty much ubiquitous through out the RV industry, although there are some higher quality lines out there. They're all made with the same screws and glue , and a lot of components. I like to avoid the disappointment, hence my Puma (which has been pretty good to me), and my Sportsmen prior, which was great (except the squeak in the floor).
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