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Old 04-02-2015, 01:38 PM   #11
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One thing I forgot. I keep the grey tank butterfly valve open. I learned the hard way that since the valve is exposed to the air, it freezes and you cant open it to drain the gray tank. You should be able to keep your 26 foot warm with a single electric heater to augment the propane heater. I kept my thermostat on 68 and had a comforter on each bed. You will be fine.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:24 PM   #12
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Yeah, I had the dump valve on gray tank freeze shut in the teens, but 10 seconds with a hair dryer fixed it.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:12 PM   #13
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We bow hunt in our TT late in October here in WI. Highs are commonly in the mid 40s and lows in the 20s at night. We have gun hunted in late November a few times as well and dealt with lows in the single digits. This was boondocking and using the water system.

I had one fresh water line going to the shower freeze up on me, because it ran through a unheated storage area. Unheated supply lines will always be the first to freeze in extreme temps. Fresh water holding tanks take a long time to freeze and just being in close proximity to the heated coach and intermittent cycling of the water pump will likely prolong any freezing. If you have any fresh water supply lines that run in the open air. Heat tracing cable can be taped to it and foam pipe insulation over the top of that can do the trick. I even found 12V DC powered heat trace that you can order with it's own thermostat so it automatically turns on and off at predetermined temps to save battery power.

We have done these cold trips for 3-4 night stints. The biggest problem for us wasn't the water freezing up or running out of propane, it was conserving battery power. 2 6V golf cart batteries could get the job done for about 3-4 nights with October temps, but not late November temps.

My new plan this year is to purchase one of the quiet 2000 watt inverter generators and use a baffling box that I have built to get it even quieter. I will probably run this set up overnight, each night to power the space heaters and recharge the house battery. I hate noise, especially when I hunt locations that are only 100 yards or so away from my TT.

Sorry for the long story, but I know a few years back when I was learning how to pull this off, this type of info would have been helpful to me. Good Luck.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:15 PM   #14
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Also forgot to mention, if you start with totally empty waste holding tanks, you can pour some RV antifreeze into the grey and black tanks. The antifreeze should settle into the waste gate valves and should prevent those from totally freezing up before you dump.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:11 PM   #15
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Also forgot to mention, if you start with totally empty waste holding tanks, you can pour some RV antifreeze into the grey and black tanks. The antifreeze should settle into the waste gate valves and should prevent those from totally freezing up before you dump.
That's a good point.
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Old 04-02-2015, 05:05 PM   #16
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In addition to consuming a lot of propane, the furnace is likely to deplete a single battery in one night if not on AC power. Several years ago we purchased a Big Buddy Heater made by Mr. Heater. They can run on two-one pound propane bottles, or can be connected to 20 or 30 lb. tanks using the built-in quick-attach fitting. Since we don't use our outside grill, I routed the grill's gas line inside, found the correct fitting at the hardware store and attached to the Big Buddy. It has 3 heat outputs, 4000, 9000, 18,000 BTU, is said to be 99% efficient (unvented), safe for enclosed spaces as long as a window is cracked for replacement oxygen (it has an oxygen depletion sensor and will shut off), uses no electricity unless the built-in fan is used (we don't). It's about half the size of a carry-on suitcase, completely portable, uses very little propane compared to your furnace. We've been using ours for several years with no problem. We bought ours for around $100 at a fleet farm store. We also carry an electric space heater. Do a search on Big Buddy Portable Heater. They also sell a smaller unit with 4000-9000 BTU outputs, but the price difference isn't substantial and it would be insufficient for serious cold.
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Old 04-02-2015, 05:51 PM   #17
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Good point Frozen, I forgot about that. We also have used a "Little Buddy" heater with the window cracked with great success during cold weather camping. Definitely prevents the furnace fan from toasting the house batteries.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:59 PM   #18
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Wahoo! Was contacted by the dealer this morning and our coach has arrived however, the soonest we can get in for delivery is Monday at 3p.

All good tips, thanks! For a very long time, the use of space heaters have come under much debate... I won't question your political views if you don't question my choice to use a space heater although I appreciate the steadfast warnings. I'm not concerned with wiring or circuitry of a TT that was manufactured in the last 30 years... Much like a house built in the same period that follow NEC codes required for human habitats.

I agree, the radiator style of heaters are fantastic and we have 2 and now with more space in our TT it will most likely replace the stinky ceramic ones. I've used them in my garage in the winter when working on projects and 2 together, on high will trip a 15 amp circuit.

I've heard about the Buddy Heaters and they seem like a good option. I'll have to look into that and the heated city water hose if we find ourselves doing much winter camping. Luckily, we're hearty folks and have good equipment having tent camped for a number of years so bundling up when it's cold won't be a problem.

Putting antifreeze in the tanks to keep the valve from freezing- very smart.

Thanks for all the first tips... I think we going to give it a try with city water.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:48 PM   #19
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Did you get the heated mattress option? I just pulled mine out for a more comfortable bed with living / camping here in FL I don't need it ...if you want it, it's yours (short queen)
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Safety Alert. Burning a Propane heater inside the camper creates carbon monoxide. Unless a window and vent is open you could have a build up of CO and loose Oxygen for sustaining life.
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