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Old 06-10-2010, 06:08 PM   #11
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Sometimes newbie's don't find out about sites like this one, or others, until they have already made their purchases.
I think that these are the ones who are looking for justification in what they are doing.

You know that the dealers won't tell a perspective buyer "Hey, you should go to this web site and get the opinions of other RVers before you buy."

I have a good friend who thinks that his 3/4 ton is rated to pull any trailer on the market. It's hard to get through to that type of mentality.
Maybe I need to use a bigger stick.

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Old 06-10-2010, 06:08 PM   #12
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Got to agree with you. Was ready to try and tow our new Fifth wheel with a 1/2 ton truck because "THEY" said you could. After reading all the why nots on this forum, I ended up with a 2500HD and I feel great about that decision. Feel more in control, like I'm towing the trailer...not the trailer pushing me.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:09 PM   #13
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Sorry.
Didn't mean to post here.

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Old 06-10-2010, 06:41 PM   #14
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I think there is a point hidden in all of this. People do need to learn! Even those who are too (fill in the words) to do their own research and put forth the effort to learn. Also, there are those who are just shopping for answers that will justify what they think or what someone, like a salesman, has told them. I just love the posts that say something like: "I have a 2002 F-150 and want to tow a 2679FLS, will this work?" These people must think we intuitively know the capabilities of their truck or the make/specs on a 2679FLS. I think we do these people a disservice if we research and answer their questions. Outside of our specific answers, they still won't have a clue as to what is going on. Consider "If you give a man a fish..."

I submit that there should be a document on this forum that we could send to these folks as a link. It could say, in a polite way and to give a basic outline:
A) Refer to your vehicle literature/ask your vehicle dealer/ search the manufacturer's website/search the internet for the following information about your tow vehicle.... Study and learn what these things mean.
B) Do the same thing for your trailer/fifth wheel. Find this information... You may also find some information on the sticker on the side of your trailer. Again, research and learn.
C) If you still have questions, post your question again. However, include all of the above information in your post or we will not be able to share our thoughts.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:13 PM   #15
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As someone who runs a website that give out solicited advice, I have learned something you already know. We only listen to answers we like to hear. If the answer tells us what we don't want to hear, something that might cost a few bucks, something that makes us work a bit, we argue back. I wonder why anyone like that asks advice in the first place. Makes ya wonder why you take your time to answer, doesn't it?
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:23 PM   #16
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Okay, I guess we should all trade in any tow vehicle that is not a F 350 dually diesel,(or equivalent) because that seems to be the only truly "safe", or "made for towing" vehicle out there. Some of us, believe it or not don't use our campers but one weekend a month, and use the tow vehicle for daily commuting. While there is no stated "must have" vehicle for this chore, you really have to use your better judgement and hopefully come up with a safe, sensible combination that fits the job. It really depends on the weight and length, geographical location for what you really need. That's my 2 cents worth.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:24 PM   #17
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Boy oh Boy its really hard when people just do not understand or do not fit into everyone elses learning curve. Anyway here is a good link people with 5th wheels can use. Fifth Wheel Weight Calculator
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:35 PM   #18
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Okay, I guess we should all trade in any tow vehicle that is not a F 350 dually diesel,(or equivalent) because that seems to be the only truly "safe", or "made for towing" vehicle out there. Some of us, believe it or not don't use our campers but one weekend a month, and use the tow vehicle for daily commuting.
You could buy a Peterbuilt and eventually someone will say you went too small.
My Georgetown has the Ford Triton V10 and some folks say that I'm nuts because I don't have air brakes and a diesel. And yet I have no problems with coming down steep grades and passing, the computer working the transmission brake is amazing.
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:15 PM   #19
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Okay, I guess we should all trade in any tow vehicle that is not a F 350 dually diesel,(or equivalent) because that seems to be the only truly "safe", or "made for towing" vehicle out there. Some of us, believe it or not don't use our campers but one weekend a month, and use the tow vehicle for daily commuting. While there is no stated "must have" vehicle for this chore, you really have to use your better judgement and hopefully come up with a safe, sensible combination that fits the job. It really depends on the weight and length, geographical location for what you really need. That's my 2 cents worth.

I gotta add my 2 cents. I see no "rule of thumb ratings" when it comes to vehicle capabilities and manufacturers ratings (other than marketing reasons).

Case in point, a jeep liberty. 5000lb. tow capacity, VERY short wheelbase, antiquated 4 speed transmission, 210 hp motor. This would be the last vehicle I would choose to tow with, I don't care what the manufacturer says yet many people figure that this would be fine (by the numbers).

I tow with a minivan (shoot me now...). I have had my van set up from a dealer that has been doing this for 40+ years. I had the benefit of trying the whole setup before I bought. I've seen countless trucks with that "I can tow anything attitude", no W.D. or sway control, headlights in the sky... Everything is good though, I have a truck!

I don't discount all the advice that is posted here but everyone's situation is not the same. An F350 in my driveway is not in the cards for the 2000km of towing I do a year (typically).
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:14 PM   #20
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When I asked 1 dealer to show me his lightweight trailers under 25', he asked me what I was going to be towing with. I told him a 2006 F150 rated to tow 9300 lbs. He made the statement "Oh, you can tow any trailer on the lot". That might have been true weight wise, but not length wise. He didn't ask me what my wheelbase was.....he just wanted to sell me something big with a big commission. And that is not what I asked him to show me. I refused to look at the big stuff.....I wanted a lightweight trailer under 25'. Well OK, I did get a lightweight trailer, but it is 28.5'......but I did not buy from that dealer. I feel my trailer at 5500 lbs. and 28.5' is about all I am comfortable with with my truck, period.

The point is with all of this rambling, is that the dealers want to sell trailers no matter what. The dealer will sell a newbie a trailer, then they come here as an after thought. We gotta be the ones to break the news....."that is probably not a good combination".

Like 08flagvlite, I tow with what I have.....a 1/2 ton, long wheelbase truck with a V8, good final drive ratio. All of the stats are well within Fords towing guide maximums. It tows good, stops good, and I am confident that I am towing safer than maybe 90% of the other trailers on the road out there. I have done the fender measurements, made numerous trips across the scales, read everything possible on towing......and most important, drive defensively. I think I am a lot more safe on the road than a 3/4 ton truck driver pulling the same camper without a WDH and sway control with the attitude......"oh, I got a heavy duty truck, I don't need all of stuff."

Would a 3/4 ton truck pulling my camper with the same WDH and sway control be safer.....quite possible. Would a 1 ton in the same situation be safer than a 3/4 ton truck be safer.....quite possible again......but maybe a little overkill ???

We need to continue to help the newbies as much as possible with the combined knowledge that we have, and let them know if we don't think that their setup is up to snuff.
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