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Old 06-10-2010, 01:04 PM   #1
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I don't get it.

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So it seems to come up at least once a week here. Someone avails to the friendly and knowledgeable folks here on this forum for advice on whether they should or can pull "X" trailer with "X" tow vehicle. Once they get the answer they were so obviously not wanting "no you shouldn't" they add the caveat: "but I am only traveling between 2 or 3 hours from home"

Am I missing something or do people actually think that they can disregard the safety of themselves, their family and others on the road because they are only traveling 2 or 3 hours from home?

Is there some unwritten rule that an accident will only occur after one has travelled more than 3 hours from home? Do hopped up metheads only cut you off or pull out in front of you after you have travelled for more than 3 hours? Does the need to be able to take safe evasive actions because the idiot in front of you wasn't paying attention to traffic and just caused an accident never happen on flat an level ground where you "will only be pulling this trailer"?

I know dealers spread a lot of bad information while trying to sell a trailer to those that don't know any better. The maximum towing capacity of vehicles also isn't well explained or understood by many either. Engine size isn't the be all end all determining factor in choosing to pull a 35' 5er with a Yugo fitted with a Ford 460 engine!

People. SAFETY STARTS IN THE DRIVEWAY! Not just 3 hours away from home. There are a lot of very knowledgeable and experienced RV owners here so if they say your TV will not pull "X" trailer SAFELY then their advice should be well heeded! Just because you are travelling only "2 or 3 hours from home" is no excuse to not do it safely.

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Old 06-10-2010, 01:35 PM   #2
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Well said.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:45 PM   #3
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Or the responses that are something like "I made it alive doing that once so it must be OK"
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:56 PM   #4
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Or the 'but I see others doing it that way'. I agree, "well said".
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We can only recommend and advise. We cannot make them do what they know they should do.
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Old 06-10-2010, 02:08 PM   #6
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Understood and completely agree.
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Somewhere along the line I have seen some links to videos showing the perils of improper towing set-ups. Those need to be the standard reply when this happens. I know seeing one caused me to change my set up.
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:16 PM   #8
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I'll slice this a little thinner, but I don't disagree with the comments so far. There are BIG items like the right truck with the right wheelbase, etc.. Can't skimp on any of that.

BUT.. Let's say you are ONLY going to tow to a few nearby campgrounds and you have no significant grades, low/no risk of high winds.. you've driven it a 100 times and it's an easy clear shot and you'll take the trip a few times a year so your yearly miles traveled will be very low and the miles will be easy/low risk.

Well then you probably could skimp on some of the "optional upgrades" and still be safe. Maybe you don't put extra coolers on the truck or you don't have power brakes on the TOAD.

In this end this is pointless, because the day will come when your buddy/wife/husband says "Let's drive 2000 miles on a trip thru the desert and into the mountains in the middle of summer". Then you'll have spent money on gear that isn't up to the challenge and/or you'll need all the "optional upgrades" to stay safe.

I buy the best gear I can find.. and when I'm on a short/easy trip it's that much safer/easier. Plus I need all that gear to keep us safe when I'm doing emergency manuevers to avoid the cracks heads.

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Excellent points Steve. As for the motorcycle, I've been there. Rode a bike for 7 years as the only transportation. I've seen most of the stupid things motorist can do, and riding a bike while doing so will put your mind in a whole other perspective when it comes to safety on the road!
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:08 PM   #10
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Well, now that you mentioned Steve, I agree with you. I didn't ellaborate before but I fall in the exact same category. We have only gotten into TTrailering in the last 2 1/2 yrs. We go locally and know the area quite well, no hills, no dangerous cliffs, no extra loading. We just got our second TT Brand Spanking New and thinking on exploring further out. I appreciatte all of you being hard on Safety, in my mind this is not negotiable (as Jeeper stated). I had been reading your forums for quite sometime and learned quite a bit. When I started I had no clue what 3:73, 4:10, WDH, TW, TV, RDC, GVWR Dry, etc, or any of that stuff was nor I thought I needed to know. It is because of All of YOU that I can somewhat chat, chew & Spit at the same time.
While shopping for the new TT, I inquired the sales people for specifics things that I've read here and some of them didn't even know what the heck I was talking about or they would give me a generic answer.
I, for one asked a couple of pointers on towing since we bought the TT. I'm seriously thinking of upgrading TV for the same safety reasons, (Family, safety of others and caring for new TT). I think some folks ask questions because they respect and admire your comments...no matter how dumb the question might be.

I don't disagree, some folks are out there are asking questions to validate their workarounds and that messes things up for us newbees.

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