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Old 04-27-2015, 10:36 PM   #11
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:45 PM   #12
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Driver charged with DWI. Syracuse 11:00 news
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:26 AM   #13
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Here's the whole dashcam video...


IMO, even the salesman was driving poorly...following WAY too closely...even before the idiots start to get crazy. At a couple of points he's about half a second back.

The roads are scary these days.
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:07 AM   #14
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Hmm, completely different stories between the news coverage and the actual dash cam video. From the news footage alone, the pickup seems to completely be the innocent victim, who was actively passing a big rig but the Camaro was just too impatient. In the early bit when he blocked the Camaro from cutting in if you pay attention to the shadows on the ground you can even see there was a vehicle in front of the pickup.

Watching the full length video, we can then see the pickup didn't complete his pass and held himself next to the big rig. We can speculate this was on purpose to block the Camaro, but not having a view of the speedometer or knowing the speed limits on that stretch of roadway we're just speculating. Just as possible the big rig is the one who sped up and the pick up didn't want to speed in order to complete his pass. It does happen.

All in all though, they made the right call in saying the Camaro was at fault. Aside from the stupidity of his actions, he was found to be impaired after all.

The only fault to the pickup was if he purposely slowed down just to block the Camaro. It's entirely probable, but it is an unknown. I've known of at least one case where a group of big rigs were actually praised for such a move. A person I know's son was killed by a hit and run drunk driver who was later captured thanks to a few big rigs that collectively blocked it in and forced it to stop.

Now, on the subject of people who just drive in the left lane. At least in Ontario, unfortunately, it's not illegal. I haven't found anything in the Highway Traffic Act against it. I hate people that do it, but without it being against the law there's not much that can done about it. In comparison, my German colleagues once told me that over there it is illegal. Failure to move back to the right once safe to do so or passing on the right is a major penalty (they didn't enlighten on what 'major' actually meant though). Over here, it's become so common place my niece once told me she thought the left was the driving lane and the right was meant for merging and passing.
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:56 AM   #15
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Here in NY there are signs on the thruway that say keep right except to pass. And I constantly get behind Canadian drivers who never more out of the left lane. Always have to pass them on the right.
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When you watch the entire video, this is so common, I see the start of this all the time. People driving slow in the left lane and taking miles and miles to pass when clearly there is faster traffic behind them. When I am in the act of passing, if a faster vehicle comes up behind, time to speed up and complete my pass. After I am done passing, the vehicle from behind passes me and life is good. I don't leave it in cruise and complete the pass at my leisure. People driving faster than myself is a great thing. Hard to get a ticket when there are others driving much faster on the road.

Although the Camaro is wrong here, had the pickup not played games with the Camaro he wouldn't have a wrecked truck today.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:13 PM   #17
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Here in NY there are signs on the thruway that say keep right except to pass. And I constantly get behind Canadian drivers who never more out of the left lane. Always have to pass them on the right.
Having to pass anyone on the right is so wrong. Have people lost the ability to drive?
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:19 PM   #18
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...Hard to get a ticket when there are others driving much faster on the road...

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my Dad. We were driving on the highway when another car blew past us.

My dad turned to me and said: "I didn't think those were legal in Canada."

Me: "What's not legal?"

Dad: "Radar detectors"






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Having to pass anyone on the right is so wrong. Have people lost the ability to drive?
When a person is driving drunk,then they often lose the ability to do anything right. And often innocent people often lose their lives as a result.

Ever notice that often the drunk driver is not killed in an accident he/she causes,but the innocent person (s) often are. Happens frequently here in the DFW area,especially in the early morning hours.
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I would be interested to know how the insurance companies involved determine this one. Just because the Camaro caused the wreck, and got a ticket....has nothing to do with the final determinations from the insurance company(s) as to fault..or percentages of fault.

The pickup driver could very well be determined to have a lot of the fault assigned to him. These fault determinations also go to how much money is paid (and from whose insurance) towards medical, property and such... and also whether it comes from liability or comprehensive.

I am dealing with State Farm over something similar currently where a driver with no headlights was involved in a wreck with my mother.

http://www.wikihow.com/Determine-Who...a-Car-Accident

https://www.esurance.com/info/car/ho...a-car-accident
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