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Old 10-11-2016, 09:12 AM   #51
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Because in so many campgrounds, seasonal campers tend to make the place look like a low-rent trailer park. I dont think the weekenders should have to put up with this.

I have a seasonal site in the middle of a bunch of transient sites. I keep my site looking like I just got there and am ready to leave in a moment's notice. However, on the other side of our campground, the whole section is seasonal campers and the area looks like hell - like a low-rent trailer park. Some of the sites are nice, but most are cluttered with every kind of yard decoration and light that can be bought at the dollar store and Home Depot. There are other seasonal sites such as mine scattered around the transient section of the campground and most of these people seem to keep their sites like I do mine, but there are a few that are over the top that most people wouldn't want to be camping next to.

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Agreed. There is a campground about 10 miles from my house. Mineral Springs, near Peebles, Ohio. Beautiful spring fed lake. Really nice area. But it looks like heck. The place is full of campers people leave there 24/7/365. Most have decks built around them. Junk strewn all around. I really don't see the appeal.

We drove through, just to check it out and scout out potential campsites. Nope. I'll drive 4 times further to a state park, to not camp there.

Beyond that, I read some of their reviews online, and a lot of weekenders were complaining that the full-time people were very rude to short-term people, going so far as to harass, drive through their campsites, etc, because they didn't want them there.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:40 AM   #52
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I was actually just talking to my wife about this, this weekend.

1. Water hookup at site, but not sewer, to discourage long-term stays.

2. As an IT professional, I can tell you it would be relatively easy to provide a stable and reliable wifi mesh network at a campground.

3. Privacy. Trees between every site. Birchs are narrow and fast growing and would provide privacy between sites.

4. Pull through sites in a figure 8 configuration, so you can still have a privacy barrier behind your campsite.

5. Stocked catch and release fishing lake with a couple monster catfish to keep things interesting

6. Preferably built into a hillside. Flat campgrounds are boring.

7. Reasonable firewood rates. I think a lot of people would be happy to pay $50 to have a 1/4 cord of wood delivered and stacked at their campsite for a 3 day weekend. Closer to the city, $200 is a reasonable rate for a cord of wood delivered and stacked. So $50 for a 1/4 isn't unreasonable.

8. Splash park / mini golf / other stuff for the kids so I'm not constantly hearing "I'm boooooored".

9. A redbox or something similar on the grounds, for those rainy weekends.

10. Offer site setup. My parents went to a campground up in Michigan a few years ago where they were inside paying for the site, and when they came out, the camper was gone! The staff had unhooked it from the truck, and used a tractor to deliver it to the campsite, leveled it, and hooked it up. There are so many people that are afraid of backing up their camper. I think if you charged $15 for this, you'd make a killing and have a lot of happy customers.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:47 AM   #53
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An off-leash dog park would be great! No breed or size restrictions, just reasonable expectations for normal dog behavior (ie not aggressive, not excessive barking).
To add to this - I wish campgrounds enforced noise violations more. I spent ALL weekend last weekend listening to some yappy little dog bark non-stop. I'm not exaggerating, it was all day, every day.

I really wish the park would have told them either they go or the dog goes, but either way, it needs to stop.

I've put a lot of work into training my mutt to be well behaved. I don't want to have to listen to someone else's lack of training all weekend.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:47 AM   #54
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Because in so many campgrounds, seasonal campers tend to make the place look like a low-rent trailer park. I dont think the weekenders should have to put up with this.

I have a seasonal site in the middle of a bunch of transient sites. I keep my site looking like I just got there and am ready to leave in a moment's notice. However, on the other side of our campground, the whole section is seasonal campers and the area looks like hell - like a low-rent trailer park. Some of the sites are nice, but most are cluttered with every kind of yard decoration and light that can be bought at the dollar store and Home Depot. There are other seasonal sites such as mine scattered around the transient section of the campground and most of these people seem to keep their sites like I do mine, but there are a few that are over the top that most people wouldn't want to be camping next to.

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I agree that a few seasonal campers make their sites look really junky at some campgrounds. Makes a person understand the tripadvisor reviews that state, the owner of a campground is difficult or mean. If I owned a campground, I would be firm and clear with rules and the rules would apply to everyone. Many of the etiquette threads here would not exist if the owners of campgrounds were a bit more firm with the rules around dogs, lights, quiet hours, and junk stored on seasonal or temporary sites.

Owning a campground is not a career goal of mine. Dealing with the public on a daily basis would not be fun.

This topic reminds me of a campground we were staying at. We walked into the camp store early one morning to get a free cup of coffee that was available and the owner of the campground was involved in a heated conversation with a seasonal site camper. Seems the seasonal site camper forgot that they did not own the site but were simply renting. The campground owner was asking the seasonal camper to adhere to rules around wood storage on their site. The seasonal camper thought a face cord of wood stored on their site was great but the owner didn't agree. I liked that although difficult, the owner was making the camper adhere to the rules around wood storage. We were told by other seasonal site renters that the owner was really tough. The campground looked great though and I appreciated the owner being tough.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:33 PM   #55
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Lugoismad: where did your parents camp in Michigan that the park had the camper taken to the site before your parents had even checked in? I am a Michigander and would love to know the park they went to. What an excellent service!
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:41 PM   #56
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Lugoismad: where did your parents camp in Michigan that the park had the camper taken to the site before your parents had even checked in? I am a Michigander and would love to know the park they went to. What an excellent service!
I don't know. This was about 15 years ago. My dad told me about it (I'd honestly not remembered about it) recently, but he wasn't sure which park it was.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:55 AM   #57
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Bottom line, regardless of how & what the campground had, concrete streets, pads, patio's, picnic tables, full hook ups, etc. some folks would bitch and moan about something even if it was only $10/night.
Right on OldCoot !!!

Speaking of picnic tables,,, we camped a couple days @ Camp Dearborn in Milford MI this week,,, they have the Dammest picnic tables I have ever seen,,, they seat 10 maybe 12 people,,, and have back rest,,, they have hundreds of them !!! It takes 2 young men & a boy to move one !!!

It is quite the place,,, 626 acres !!! It has every thing !!!
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Old 10-14-2016, 10:16 AM   #58
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Bottom line, regardless of how & what the campground had, concrete streets, pads, patio's, picnic tables, full hook ups, etc. some folks would bitch and moan about something even if it was only $10/night.
You left out the free lunch....
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So I guess check in would be about 5:PM ???
Check out at Raystown Lake (CoE campground) is 4pm. Yep, you guessed it, check in is 5pm. Not a problem if the site has been vacated prior to 4pm.
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So.... the consensus is a "perfect" RV park would have:
  • Level sites
  • wide and long concrete pads
  • full hookups
  • Shady private sites
  • a free run doggie playground
  • playground and activities for the kids
  • seasonal swimming pool
  • Natatorium close by (this is my add )
  • decent pervasive WiFi
  • clean and inexpensive ($1/load) Laundromat
  • firewood at decent prices
Sounds like the Military FamCamp we stay at (OK we don't have as much shade as we would like but then again, shade interferes with satellite reception )

In fact it sounds like every military FamCamp we have stayed at

So...if you happen to work for DoD, are a DoD retiree, or a Military member/Retiree you really need to check out the FamCamps!

U.S. Military Campgrounds and RV Parks - Home

Oh, and it doesn't hurt about security: FamCamps are the ultimate gated community - nothing like having gate guards armed with M-4 carbines

Disclaimer: there ARE some real stinko FamCamps or some that are just being renovated. The website above will let you know about those camps so you can avoid them
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