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Old 03-02-2016, 11:24 AM   #1
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Is this worth $139.00?

as folks who are about to spend 1/2 of our retirement money and order a new 5'er, is this worth $139.00?

If not, where can truly meaningful data be found?

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Old 03-02-2016, 11:28 AM   #2
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Save your money , you can get all that info and more by doing some research, starting HERE!!!!!
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I've been doing that for months and months. But when I read the thread on F.R. Quality, and other threads elsewhere, it's almost as if there's no viable hope!

There should be a Consumer Reports type of comparison. The models and makers are so numerous, there needs to be some kind of way to rate them. But there isn't. Just word of mouth from owners. And that leads me to Much Good and Much Bad.

Which is Much Confusing.
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I've been doing that for months and months. But when I read the thread on F.R. Quality, and other threads elsewhere, it's almost as if there's no viable hope!

There should be a Consumer Reports type of comparison. The models and makers are so numerous, there needs to be some kind of way to rate them. But there isn't. Just word of mouth from owners. And that leads me to Much Good and Much Bad.

Which is Much Confusing.
I see too much variation from unit to unit to have much confidence in a lot of the generalities about RV quality. Granted, I am talking about higher-end travel trailer, not 5ers, not toy haulers and not lower end products.

Want to see for yourself? go to a BIG dealer that you know has 3 or more examples of the same trailer on their lot (the dealer I purchased my yet to be delivered Rockwood from had 9 on their lot). Send the sales guy away because you need to sit and think in them or talk or whatever and just look around. Look at cabinet doors, moldings, alignment of things.

Choose a couple of drawers in each unit, like the ones down low in the kitchen, and pull each one out and see how it feels. Look at how an electrical outlet or a switch plate is placed and aligned in each unit. If there is any exposed plumbing, look as how it's arranged and located.

You could go on and look at electrical wiring by the tongue, sealing of windows, any place where it's possible to see the mark of the people who put the trailer together.

You will see differences. Not all are bad, but there are differences. now imagine what you can't see or easily inspect and you get an idea on the possible variations in a modern travel trailer. Some of those differences matter from a quality perspective and some don't. Quality has a visual or esthetic aspect as well as a functional or performance aspect. A high quality RV will have the right amount attention applied to all aspects. A lower quality unit will not. We have to make up our minds individually if the quality we see and imagine at what we can't see, is good enough for us.

As is pointed out in other posts, travel trailers are not cars. the production numbers are wildly different, the amount of production engineering is wildly different and the number of jigs, special tools and automated equipment is different as well. it's no surprise the real and perceived quality levels are different too.
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Hope save your money. A lot of campers are now coming with 2 year warranties. FR does offer an extra year warranty for reasonable dollars. Later RJD
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Thanks again. Good responses.

Chateau, we did that. I was visiting my daughter in S. Carolina and we went and sat in many of them and inspected closely at a huge dealer. No salesman ever came near! We took all afternoon.

We came away impressed with the CC 36CKTS and are about to pull the trigger on ordering. My sphincter is closing tightly and I'm running in circles trying to ensure we are not messing up. I have a big history of head slapping AFTER a big decision!

Thanks again!
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Hope save your money. A lot of campers are now coming with 2 year warranties. FR does offer an extra year warranty for reasonable dollars. Later RJD
That's true, but may be the good news/bad news.
The warranty is only as good as the people who do the work.
If you read this forum, you will find:
1) Generally, the only dealer willing to do warranty work is the one you bought it from, which in many cases is far from your home.
2) Dealers generally don't like to do warranty work.
3) The quality of the work done by dealers varies considerably.
4) You must be out of warranty before a third party service contract kicks in.
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Old 03-02-2016, 01:11 PM   #9
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as folks who are about to spend 1/2 of our retirement money and order a new 5'er, is this worth $139.00?
BandJCarm, we all feel your pain and if you do decide to purchase a reference I would suggest the book by Roger Eaton "2016 Travel Trailer & Fifth Wheel Comparison Guide". It is $69 in print from Amazon or $59 for a download. I purchased one of these two years ago before we bought our first TT, and for exactly the same reasons you said. It has years worth of manufacturer's ratings and some background on their company business records as well. Yes, I use this forum to look for specific data about issues I might have, or types of equipment to use for special problems, but you and I were looking for overall ratings of all the manufacturers BEFORE we plunked down big $$ for a new rig. I felt the book gave me an insight as to which manufacturers built better RVs and it also rates some of the major dealers. I felt it was worth the $69 and still do. Hope this helps.
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Unfortunately there are no universal solutions to purchasing a problem free RV. As you will see by viewing various threads here, one buyer will have only a few minor issues with a model where the next purchaser has major issues with the same model. As RV's are still produced by humans ( that have good and bad days) quality can vary greatly. The best solution is to choose the model you like, become very familiar with it's features and do a detailed PDI testing out everything (including roof) before signing anything. Be wary of the salesman that tells you they can clean it and have t ready for pick up tomorrow. Do not let the excitement of picking it up cloud your judgement and accept a unit with issues that the dealer promises to fix later. You are buying this to enjoy. Getting things corrected prior to signing will always be faster than getting them corrected once you sign and drive it off the lot. Follow your gut. If something does not seem right it probably isn't. Get the 2nd year FR warranty. Then come back and post pictures of you enjoying it.
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