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Old 08-26-2015, 09:22 AM   #41
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A LEO can search my TT if he wants but it would be with the agreement that he takes his shoes off before entering.
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Old 08-26-2015, 09:23 AM   #42
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I will be respectful. I have nothing at all to hide, however... I will exercise my rights against unlawful search and seizure by making them obtain a search warrant before I allow them to search anything I own.

The police (for the most part) do an outstanding job, with little appreciation. But they too have to play by the rules like the rest of us, and one of the rules is you cant just search a citizen for the hell of it. You need a reason, and its up to a judge to consider if their reason is valid.

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Old 08-26-2015, 09:49 AM   #43
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There is no way the police in America are going to search my camper without a warrant. I don't do drugs and if I have gun it will be a shotgun. I had a problem with the police and now I understand why some people don't talk to cops, these days if a cop asks me if I saw something I'm going to say no. Now days if a cop asks me did I see anything this what I say, I see nothing, I hear nothing, I keep my mouth shut if a cop talks to me. I will never help a cop by saying anything. I hate to say this but I don't like cops. It cost me a bunch of money to learn my lesson but I keep my shut around cops and I pray that this doesn't happen but if I would see one in a bad way I would walk on


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Old 08-26-2015, 09:49 AM   #44
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I'm not hiding anything, so what makes the difference? Why antagonize them? Let 'em search and go on your way.
Because I have constitutional rights and i'm not going to allow some cop the right to violate my rights. Do I have anything to hide?? Absolutely not. That doesn't give them the right to search anything of mine without 1 of the following

1)Do they think I'm committing a crime?
2)Do they think I have committed a crime?
3)Do they think I'm about to commit a crime?

If they can't answer yes to any of them, buzz off and leave me alone. On top of that, if they can't say yes to one of the top 3, I don't even have to identify myself on who I am. Most don't realize that..

PS - I actually don't hate cops despite how this post may sound. But there are too many out there that feel they are high and mighty and can do whatever they want. They need a reality check on our rights and need to stop violating them.

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Old 08-26-2015, 10:02 AM   #45
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Good luck with (No Search Warrant) if you are (Traveling thru Tx,Az) and the (Check Points) are set up! If the (DOG Barks) your unit will be (Torn Up)! They/You may call it (Searched) but I have seen (Torn Up)! Youroo!! PS this was (NOT) at the Border!
You are correct. If, at a road check, where a border patrol officer is present, as was the case in your observation youroo, they can search persons and your vehicle. As long as it is within 100 miles of the US Border. There are certain restrictions.
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Old 08-26-2015, 10:06 AM   #46
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Always support and respect The Thin Blue Line. And that Blue Line should do the same to you. Always be nice and respectful.

With that said, ask your self, "What would a traffic defense lawyer say to me if I were to be asked by a LEO to search my RV"? Laws very all over the country (example:showing conceal carry permit vs never bringing the subject up) and what you 'may' think as 'nothing to hide', our good officers in Blue, may think differently. Their job is to find law breakers and support public safety and what is ok in one state will get you ten years in an other state. Not knowing and understanding the laws of each state is not a defense against confiscation or incarceration. Know your Rights and don't give them up by giving permission too quickly as that permission can not be taken back once given, know your Responsibilities and know the laws of where you go.

LEOs job is very stressful to begin with. Look at some good videos on traffic stops in order to make any traffic stop as smooth and stress free for you and them.


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If I get stopped by highway patrol officers I show them my license and registration, I just don't volunteer any information. I am to hot headed so I never carry a gun, I got enough of carrying a gun in Vietnam.


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Always support and respect The Thin Blue Line. And that Blue Line should do the same to you. Always be nice and respectful.

With that said, ask your self, "What would a traffic defense lawyer say to me if I were to be asked by a LEO to search my RV"? Laws very all over the country (example:showing conceal carry permit vs never bringing the subject up) and what you 'may' think as 'nothing to hide', our good officers in Blue, may think differently. Their job is to find law breakers and support public safety and what is ok in one state will get you ten years in an other state. Not knowing and understanding the laws of each state is not a defense against confiscation or incarceration. Know your Rights and don't give them up by giving permission too quickly as that permission can not be taken back once given, know your Responsibilities and know the laws of where you go.

LEOs job is very stressful to begin with. Look at some good videos on traffic stops in order to make any traffic stop as smooth and stress free for you and them.


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X2. It amazes me how many people don't know their constitutional rights or are willing to compromise them because "I'm not doing anything wrong."
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Old 08-26-2015, 10:31 AM   #50
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I just retired from 30 years of Law Enforcement this past January. The laws are different for each state. Here in N.C. We can ask to search but if you refuse we would need a search warrant to search. Ok, being a officer this may shock some of you but if ask to search; I would say no. Ok Ok, wait before you start throwing doughnuts. LOL. Seriously though I have a good reason for my statement. Officers are people and sadly enough there are good honest ones that spend their career doing their best to help serve and protect. BUT, there are also bad ones that stain the whole community of brother hood of officers. We had an officer years ago that was actually investigated and convicted of planting drugs in people's vehicles to up his arrest record. He also was doing other things that I don't even want to talk about. So there are good officers and there are bad ones. If I were ever ask to search my vehicle or camper. I would not allow it. I on the other hand I would explain my reason for it. But as a citizen we all have rights to safe gard our property. I wish I could say; if you don't have anything to hide why would you refuse. That use to be my mentality as a young officer years ago but life isn't always fair or sometimes just and sometimes a bad apple slips through the system. Lastly though I will say that the majority of officers I've been able to work side by side with during my career would give their life to protect a stranger and work each day to protect and serve to their best ability.
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