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Old 04-10-2014, 06:59 AM   #1
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Looking for new campers, need input

My wife and I got our first camper almost 1 year ago now and love it. But we bought small and now want something bigger. So we are looking at several makes and models. I know many here have been long time campers and have had other brands, so I would like to hear from you what you think about Coachman and Keystone? Are there other brands I should be looking at as well? I am definitely looking at other Forest River products but I don't want to be brand loyal to a fault. I want the best layout/features/price/quality/etc that I can find as I want this next camper to last me for quite some time.

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Old 04-10-2014, 08:05 AM   #2
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Wow, that's a tough order to fill. We also bought too small the first time and upgraded. I cannot offer advice as my only experience is with FR and after attending the Goshen Rally last year we decided to stay with FR. There are a lot of options out there a lot of price points to consider. Initally we looked at a lot of different manufacturers and our final decision was partly based on the quality and location of the dealer. As far as manfactures quality, typically you only hear the negatives and they all have their problems, it boils down to how problems are handled and FR and our dealer have treated us well.

Sorry I cannot offer more, but good luck in your quest.

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Old 04-10-2014, 08:14 AM   #3
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For longevity I would look at Cedar Creek and the Wildcat brand. I know someone who has been living full time in his Wildcat since 2003 and it's still going strong.

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Old 04-10-2014, 11:39 AM   #4
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a common saying, "Buy your second trailer, FIRST!"

we need more input as to what you like or don't like.
what type of camping will you be doing.

you're going to be limited quite a bit, with the 4.6 F-150.
we've been impressed with Keystone's Montana line of 5th Wheels.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:24 PM   #5
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X2 what Dan, Oak & Iowa said.

Dan's point especially: your TV will dictate your rig.

If you allow me to assume you can upgrade both the TV & Rig, take a look at the Rockwood 8289WS Diamond Package for starters.

Given that you beef up your F150 upgrade you can pull the 8289WS nicely. For us, the 8289 is plenty large enough for retirement and long trips. We do not plan to full time, but 1/2 time is certainly within the realm of possibility. Our only niggle with the 8289 is the bedroom is a tad on the small size, but it has a Queen bed - same as home - and we have been good friends for 35 years now anyways

If you do upgrade your TV, however, I suggest you build the TV around the rig you like best!

As for other brands, we did a lot of research back in the early 2000's when we moved up from a (Coleman) Pop-up to a TT. No matter what we looked at, or folks we talked to at campgrounds, or rigs we checked out at RV shows/dealers, Forest River always seemed to come out on top in every category of RV save the ultra luxury coaches ($500K+) (although Berkshire Class As are AWESOME rigs at 1/2 that price!)

Next time you are camping just do a informal survey and count the different brands - my unscientific observations indicate mostly FR with Coachman & Winnibego 2nd neck & neck. Oh, and Airstream - but the AS crowd are sorta like the Macintosh Computer Fanatics of the 80's (they ARE good units though)

Oh...another plus for FR? There's this small-time businessman by the name of Warren Buffet bought FR outright in 2005 based on the company's reputation
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:28 PM   #6
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Make a list of what you must have and what you want. That is shat we did and it helped the salesman to not waste our time looking at units that we would not like. We moved from our first TT without slides to a 42 ft FR Cardinal. We found one we loved it has a master with a king, back bed has a bunk and full. The only think we gave up was a side Isle bath. After a year we don't miss it at all. Taking the time to Make sure you get one that meets your needs are key. I have found no issues with the quality of ours.

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what is the payload and towing capacity of your truck? With a 4.6, depending on how its equipped, it may not be a whole lot.
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:19 AM   #8
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what is the payload and towing capacity of your truck? With a 4.6, depending on how its equipped, it may not be a whole lot.


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Old 04-11-2014, 06:42 AM   #9
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Posts: 3,642 for the layout and comfort you are wanting out of your next "long term" camper without any consideration of your current tow vehicle because once you have picked that perfect unit for you then buy/trade up for the proper TV to match your desired camper.

I've only owned FR products so can't speak of the other a lot of homework and cruise the other forums of various brands to find out the ins and outs of particular models you may be interested in.

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Old 04-11-2014, 09:07 AM   #10
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Sorry, everyone, I should have been more specific on what we are looking for. We are looking to upgrade our tow rig from the 2v 4.6l F-150 to a 5.4l F-150. The 5.4l will about double our tow capacity and be more than enough for what we are looking for.

As for the camper, we saw the Flagstaff SuperLite 27RLWS at a camper show and loved it. It has the most storage of any camper I have seen. It also has the nicest kitchen with tons of counter space and a living room almost as large as my home living room.

It checks all the boxes and then some. It is at the top of our price range though, so if you know of anything that provides most of the features at less price, let me know. In short, our requirements of the TT are:

Cold weather capable
Storage, storage, storage
Light enough to tow with an F-150
23-29 feet long (mostly because of lower weight)
Would like electric awning and tongue jack, electric stabilizers not a must
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