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Old 11-14-2018, 12:54 AM   #1
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Looks Good To Me...

Local news story.

Why it's important to be aware of your load and weights... My opinion... overloaded weight in the truck and an older style camper with no electric brakes. The sway got away from him and he couldn't get it back.

https://cnycentral.com/news/local/tr...near-pittsford
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:29 AM   #2
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“ATV being removed from bed of truck” is a pretty good clue.
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:32 AM   #3
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That’s your opinion, the wind may have blew the camper over or the driver may have swerved to miss something or someone. The police said they were investigating
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:49 AM   #4
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I hope everyone is OK.

Just wondering... from looking at that photo... how the determination could be made that the trailer didn't have electric brakes?

While it doesn't appear to be a brand new model, it does have a slide out so it can't be ancient. Electric brakes have been used for decades.

Just curious as I see no factual way to come to that conclusion from looking at the photo.
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There’s a whole lot unknown about what happened here. I had a 6x12 cargo trailer with electric brakes, made in the late 90’s. I would be more inclined to think the trailer has them. Whether they were hooked up and operating correctly is another matter.
There are probably three or four other variables at play here, with a greater impact on how this happened, then trailer brakes. JMHO.

Possibles....

Speed to fast for conditions. Towing/slick roads/windy/inexperience.
Improper loading, or overloading of the TT and or TV.
Lack of proper WDH/sway control.
Outside forces like another driver and vehicle starting the whole chain of events.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:19 AM   #6
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There’s a whole lot unknown about what happened here. I had a 6x12 cargo trailer with electric brakes, made in the late 90’s. I would be more inclined to think the trailer has them. Whether they were hooked up and operating correctly is another matter.
There are probably three or four other variables at play here, with a greater impact on how this happened, then trailer brakes. JMHO.

Possibles....

Speed to fast for conditions. Towing/slick roads/windy/inexperience.
Improper loading, or overloading of the TT and or TV.
Lack of proper WDH/sway control.
Outside forces like another driver and vehicle starting the whole chain of events.
My 1974 fifth wheel which weighed 4000 lbs had electric brakes. and several TT also older than that and around 16ft had electric brakes. so I don't think that was the issue. also I have seen several trailers being towed that should have had a WDH but didn't so I think your opinion is right on...
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:36 AM   #7
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Best part of the story: only minor injuries were reported - remarkable when you look at the truck.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:03 AM   #8
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Statistically speaking, it's about ten thousand times more likely they were either distracted/sleepy, hit an unseen slick spot or were attempting to avoid another driver/debris/animal.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:17 AM   #9
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I'm also wondering what makes you think the trailer didn't have brakes.

My old beat up 1978 Coachman TT had trailer brakes!

Although I will admit they they always worked...except when I needed them most...going downhill (and I lived in Colorado at the time).



I'm thinking two things...

Truck not big enough for the load...

And the driver was not very experienced towing.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:21 AM   #10
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Oh yeah...

It was probably also one of these:

"It was within the TOW RATING of my 1500!"!
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:23 PM   #11
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Oh yeah...

It was probably also one of these:

"It was within the TOW RATING of my 1500!"!

Really hard to tell, but that appears to be a Chevy/GM 2500 or 3500. Headlight shape appears to be GM. And, though I'm not really familiar with the wheel options on the GM products, it appears as though there are more than 5/6 lugs on that wheel.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:35 PM   #12
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As an accident investigator, nothing trips my trigger faster than a "assume the worst in another individual" from one picture investigator. So, let's all understand that we don't have data, and thank God everyone was okay...except for the their pride...that's most likely dead.
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Hate to say it, but I'm surprised we don't see more.

As we travel I'm sure you are all looking at the opposing lanes on the Interstates and assessing all the campers and motor homes.

There are always those who appear to be towing a larger load for their tow vehicle. And many others which are tipped up or down putting too much load on the front or rear tires of their travel trailer.

This is a great learning site for those new to towing. Safety comes first.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:40 PM   #14
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I hate when that happens.....
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:19 PM   #15
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Trailer Brakes First!

Electric trailer brakes were prominently featured in the 1951 Lucy and Desi Movie "The Long, Long Trailer." I was about 6 years old when I saw that movie and the line about trailer brakes and the associated urgency and importance have been burned into my memory for nearly 60 years. I also conclude that trailer brakes are not new RV features.

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Old 11-14-2018, 05:24 PM   #16
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My 1956 Airstream had electric brakes...

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Old 11-15-2018, 03:16 PM   #17
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Thanks for that.
Sixty year old movie, and Lucy / Desi still get a belly laugh from me. Good stuff.

OP. I've never seen an RV wreck on the highway, only the ones here on the forum. This is helpful for me, to see how bad things can get. Don't know the cause(s) but likely preventable. Advice to self, stay mindful of the rig requirements and drive sensibly. Thx.
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