Low beams look high?

[tom3205]

Hey, if people flash you, your lights are too bright.no ifs, ands, or buts. Get them adjusted. Not up for discussion. GET THEM ADJUSTED....

[uhduh camping]

Originally Posted by Semperfi24

Can not for the life of me understand how fog lights are driving people over the edge. Sensitive crowd in here

I guess I will send the crowd over the edge. I have put high beam bulbs in my fog lights. My factory fog lights act as daytime running lights they are ALWAYS on. Yes always even when my high beams are on (slight mod). I can turn them off anytime I want but I don't. I am mind full of others not looking to blind people. I do a lot of driving in the wee hours of the morning in areas heavily populated by deer. (Not on my tow vehicle)

I can drive with just fog lights on in the dark of night, no prob. Amber lights do very little to improve driving in fog conditions. I know of a another mod turn on all three lights at the same time. I have not done that too taxing on battery and alternator. I don't want to be left stranded over something that does not need to be done.

I think aftermarket LED light bars whether in the grille or roof are far worse than anything mentioned in this thread.

[Nurek]

What people don't realize here is that manufacturers have designed the reflector and housing of a headlight to reflect the bulb (typically halogen) used.

When uninformed people put LED or HID bulbs into those housings designed for halogen it disrupts the intended dispersion of light rays as the bulbs are longer than halogen, thus creating that "blinding effect".

Had those people actually installed those LED or HID bulbs into a projector housing/lens as they are intended, all that annoyance would be reduced to about nothing.

But those kind of drivers have NO CLUE and don't think about how their actions impact the other road users.

Nothing worse than having 4 searchlights pounding thru your rear window and wing mirrors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KbZBgrEk_w

6:40 minute mark in this video /\ backs up my points.

These guys are the best to go to about lighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na5xTO8Vigw

[Kaadk]

Originally Posted by Nurek

I doubt you can see the light from your "fog lamps" as your hood will block the light. Go try covering your headlights and see how much your fogs don't help you.

I've done this and realize they are a waste of time and energy to use and a nuisance to others.

Plus... are they fogs with amber lenses or clear "driving lights"?

Why do you feel the need to drive with your "fogs" on all the time? I doubt every day/night is foggy where you live.

In my case, I can see the lights from my fogs. They light up the road better than the normal headlights. The stock lights on the Ram I find useless, barely lights up anything. And yes, I have had the dealer adjust them. Dealer says they’re aimed right, but still, I find them useless at night.

On the other hand, I also agree there’s no need to run them all the time either. Well light city roads, they stay off, dark back county roads with just enough traffic I can’t run the high beams, then the fogs come into play.

[Nurek]

Originally Posted by Semperfi24

Can not for the life of me understand how fog lights are driving people over the edge. Sensitive crowd in here

Calling them "fog lights" when the lens is clear irks the poop out of me.

[lesptr]

Originally Posted by Nurek

I doubt you can see the light from your "fog lamps" as your hood will block the light. Go try covering your headlights and see how much your fogs don't help you.

I've done this and realize they are a waste of time and energy to use and a nuisance to others.

Plus... are they fogs with amber lenses or clear "driving lights"?

Why do you feel the need to drive with your "fogs" on all the time? I doubt every day/night is foggy where you live.

X1000

[Semperfi24]

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I’ll call them what Ford calls them, you can call them whatever you want to call them, and we’ll all be happy [emoji106]

But I think we are getting waaaaay off topic. This thread was started because factory head lights are bright in the new vehicles. So bright that many other drivers incorrectly believe they are high beams. Somehow that turned into fog lamps, driving lights, after market lights. Though it is always nice to see other people’s perspectives on things

[itat]

I’ve had 2 Ford pickups and my experience does not agree with Landis’. Ford does not have bright lights.

Regardless of whether your fog lights are white or yellow, they are supposed to be pointed down to illuminate the road not far in front of your vehicle and cut through fog so you can see the lines or edge of pavement. They are not supposed to be used for driving lights. If they’re properly aim for fog, it’s a waste to have fog lights on when it’s not foggy.

On my previous F150 I did an HID retrofit using proper HID projectors from TRS. I used 35W bulbs not 55W. It was a fantastic upgrade and I never got flashed because I aimed them properly. If you’re getting flashed it’s because your lights are not aimed properly and they’re hitting people in their eyes.

When you’re behind another vehicle at a stop light at night, your low beam should be aimed no higher than just below the average car’s outside mirrors.

[TheWolfPaq82]

Originally Posted by timfromma

Nope. Just a stock Chevy Silverado 2500HD.

I get the same thing in my 2014 GMC 2500HD.

[TheWolfPaq82]

Originally Posted by lesptr

X1000

I always run my driving lights...day or night just to make myself "more" visible to others.

[RangeMaggotBob]

Landis- I ran into this problem with my Dad's truck a while back. With his, it was sitting just a hair high on the front end- cause there was something in the back. Just being a little high like that made a world of difference- looked just like high beams coming at you. Took the crap out of the back, the front end dropped a little, (or the rear-end raised a little) and problem solved. By the way- I'm like you. Not out to save the world and get along with everybody. Not "politically correct". If another vehicle needs to be flashed, they get flashed.

[DieselDrax]

Originally Posted by Nurek

I doubt you can see the light from your "fog lamps" as your hood will block the light. Go try covering your headlights and see how much your fogs don't help you.

I've done this and realize they are a waste of time and energy to use and a nuisance to others.

Plus... are they fogs with amber lenses or clear "driving lights"?

Why do you feel the need to drive with your "fogs" on all the time? I doubt every day/night is foggy where you live.

Fog vs driving lights is about the beam pattern and not the color of the light. If you think all aux lights that are white are driving lights then you would be mistaken. Fog lights throw a short but wide beam. Driving lights throw a narrow but long beam. Color isn't what makes them fog or driving lights.

I use my fog lamps on the highway and country roads at night because they cast a much wider beam and illuminate the side of the road and trees so that I can see wildlife before it gets into the road.

Originally Posted by Semperfi24

Can not for the life of me understand how fog lights are driving people over the edge. Sensitive crowd in here

No kidding, you'd think someone had insulted their mother the way some people are responding.

Originally Posted by Nurek

Calling them "fog lights" when the lens is clear irks the poop out of me.

It makes me chuckle when someone doesn't understand something and then talks about being irked at others for misusing a term that actually isn't being misused.

[timfromma]

Wow, I guess we can add fog lamps to the list of subjects that gets people panties in a twist.

[itat]

The point of this thread is lights pointing too high. As long as people don’t have their lights aimed to point into oncoming drivers’ eyes, I really don’t care what lights they have on, or how many lights they have mounted, or what kind of lights they have, or even what color they are.

It’s each driver’s responsibility to make sure their lights are properly aimed.

My problem is with people that get flashed more than “very occasionally” and then blame the other guy and flash their lights back. They’ve failed to get the message that the aiming of their lights is the problem and they need to be properly aimed. It’s dangerous to have two blinded drivers driving towards each other.

As I said in an earlier post, I retrofitted proper HID projectors on my 2009 F-150 and with proper aiming I never got flashed, even when towing.

[saus]

When I first bought our F-250 I would get flashed all of the time while towing the camper. I realized it was my fault and did not flash anyone back. I lowered the headlights to as low as they would go and have not had too many people flashing me. I do get an occasional flash and I just quickly flash them back, not to be rude but to let them know that I'm not being rude by riding with my high beams on.

[bareftn]

Originally Posted by 270S

NOT a LOL situation - You wonder why there is road rage! Better yet, why there is so much war around the world. Nobody knows how to get along anymore. You don't have to like everyone, just get along.

Problem is you, specifically the Fabulous LED or "blue high intensity" lights that are now available or standard on vehicles. Sure they are great to see the road perfectly at night, but that would be no different than older vehicles driving with their high beams on all the time. Frankly, what a dumb move by the automotive industry.

Realize that these new lights are "blinding" vehicles in front for a significant distance ahead and be as courteous as possible - possibly change lanes. Unfortunately, as well as being bright, they have a much wider beam too. They not only light up the lane the vehicle is on, but both lanes on either side too. Watch and look, you will see - I am surprised that drivers with these lights are "playing dumb" and pretend that they had no idea what the are doing to other drivers. There really is no good solution here, but don't get upset at another driver if he flashes you, just move on.

wow sounds like someone has a anger issues
if someone is behind me and lights are bright and I think they are set on high I just flip my inside mirror and slow down so they pass

[BandJCarm]

There was another thread on this that got bad, and apparently got taken down. Looks like that's the direction this is headed.

I said there that this country is as divided on every issue, like I never imagined possible. And danged if now it ain't headlights!!!!!

[timfromma]

If someone behind me has their high beams on, I will readjust my side mirrors to reflect their own lights back at them.

[PenJoe]

Originally Posted by Semperfi24

Can not for the life of me understand how fog lights are driving people over the edge. Sensitive crowd in here

They may be referred to as fog lights, but with clear lenses, I would consider them driving lights-and they are bright. Personally, they do not "drive me over the edge". I am not afraid to drive at night and will drive at night if needed, but our preference is to drive in daylight.

We live in one area with a lot of deer. So we use brights when there is no oncoming traffic. But there is a zone in oncoming traffic where we are both on dim, but quasi blinded by each others lights. There is enough brightness that something coming out of the ditch may be unseen until it become a silhouette. BTW, my eyes have recently been tested for night driving the peepers are good.