Maxxis Tires - Page 2

OldCoot · 06-01-2016, 04:16 PM

I'll stay with GY Marathons until I have a problem, used them for over 35 yrs and never had a problem of any kind. Did have 2 on the race car trailer that were over 10 yrs old that the tread literally fell of from sitting on clay for 5 years and still had 20# of air in them.

OldCoot · 06-01-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwannacamp

anything above 80 MPH is a waste for me...fast as the ole Dodge will go...

Please post the roads you use so I can avoid them.

Iwannacamp · 06-01-2016, 04:18 PM

we are all in trouble....

L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires as per tire rack

Iwannacamp · 06-01-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OldCoot

Please post the roads you use so I can avoid them.

only did it once in OK...for a short distance.. long story.. no TT

I never pulled above 65... Just not in my "happy place"

uhduh camping · 06-01-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

That is were the conflict comes in now Amazon rated them as "R" for speed that says 106 mph on there chart, then when you go down farther it has a chart that will say 65 mph. as she said that is what they have to show by law. I would think that the tireman9 would be able to make a call and find this out for us. Now who would go 106 mph's with a trailer. The load cap. is still higher then those Marathons I took off. Every place I read they are the best trailer tire out there. Granted that's not saying much....

But with 3 broken belts in 3 1/2 years, never hit a curb or over loaded and kept at 65 PSI they shouldn't have broken the belts in 3 tires. I thought Marathons were good, but I guess you just have to be lucky...

Also my weight per tire loaded is like 1740 lbs.

I have heard the term "Marabombs" tossed around a lot. I also have seen that there is at least two types of Marathon tires. Not ratings but types I was researching tires a bit when I found this info. There was a big difference in prices. But that's all I really remember about the Marathon tires.
My tires have a speed rating of 87 MPH. Would I travel that fast? Sure if I some how become a runaway rig! It is kinda nice to know that is a little wiggle room though.

**Tireman9** · 06-01-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

Maxxis Corporation just got back to me they said that they can only tell me that they are safe at any rated highway speed by law. They also said they do not rate the ST tire for speed rating. I asked about the Amazon speed rating of 106 MPH she said I do not know where Amazon is getting there tires, but Maxxis will say they are safe at any posted speed limit in the USA. They will not commit to any recommended speed limit. She said if the speed limit is 65 they are good if it is 75 they are still good. They just will not commit. She also said it's not required by law to produce a max speed for there tire. Still confused maybe Tireman9 can make sense of it. I thought that every DOT tire had to have max limit that you can travel at a constant speed. I guess not according to Maxxis Corporate office in Georgia.

Bet they won't give you that in writing. According to US Tire & Rim Association ST type tires are rated for a max of 65 mph. The exception would be for GY and TowMax who have issued Tech Builtin to Tire Rack on the increase in max speed up to 75 but not above but only with an increase of 10 psi cold and NO increase in load.

Some new ST type tires are now being made with a higher than 65 speed rating but the tires would have a speed symbol molded on the tire sidewall. No symbol = 65 MAX per TRA. TRA is the reference used by DOT. Some ST tires have a L rating which is 75.

RE Customer Service person. You don't think they are experienced tire engineers do you? I bet they are relatively new hires with a book of standard answers for standard questions.
I got into a discussion with Michelin person just last week on incorrect Load Range information published on their web site and used in the ref book she was using. She was trying to tell me their passenger tire had a "C" Load Range.
No such rating in TRA or ETRTO which is European standard book or JATMA which is book for Asia. After asking a few questions and pointing out the contradictions she admitted that her info appeared to be incorrect and would discuss with her supervisor.

**Tireman9** · 06-01-2016, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by uhduh camping

I was curious, I knew my Maxxis tires had a higher speed rating I was fairly certain it was not "R".
There might be an industry standard, but does not say it cannot be exceeded.

Sorry but that tire is rated "N" speed rating or 87 mph. FYI the test only requires no failure for 30 minutes at the max speed.

I note that the major tire companies limit speed, no matter the tire rating to 75 in RV service due to high load factor in usage.

Note much basic tire information is available on Tire Rack web page but HERE is info on sidewall marking. IMO if you don't know or understand this info when reading it you should not be buying tires without help from a knowledgeable friend.

**Tireman9** · 06-01-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

That is were the conflict comes in now Amazon rated them as "R" for speed that says 106 mph on there chart, then when you go down farther it has a chart that will say 65 mph. as she said that is what they have to show by law. I would think that the tireman9 would be able to make a call and find this out for us. Now who would go 106 mph's with a trailer. The load cap. is still higher then those Marathons I took off. Every place I read they are the best trailer tire out there. Granted that's not saying much....

But with 3 broken belts in 3 1/2 years, never hit a curb or over loaded and kept at 65 PSI they shouldn't have broken the belts in 3 tires. I thought Marathons were good, but I guess you just have to be lucky...

Also my weight per tire loaded is like 1740 lbs.

You are very lucky to have all tires at 1740 with no variation side to side or axle to axle.

Witch Doctor · 06-02-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tireman9

You are very lucky to have all tires at 1740 with no variation side to side or axle to axle.

To be honest that's when it was new only and couldn't figure out why they put a "C" rated tire on that unit, didn't give much wiggle room on capacity. I'll look on that tire and see if I can see that speed marking, Thanks for your help. I have a call into another person at the Maxxis office, but he has not returned my call yet....

I agree that was not really a answer but a brush off.

Witch Doctor · 06-02-2016, 01:16 PM

This is information that was sent to me about speed ratings and there codes.
First Amazon has it right for the speed rating of 106 MPH for "r" rated ST.
Second the conflict that comes in is that Maxxis only recommends even the high speed ST tire that they call it is 65 MPH that's the law. Read the attached and it takes the myth out of speed ratings. Now this what I got but maybe some else can verify this.

**Tireman9** · 06-02-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

This is information that was sent to me about speed ratings and there codes.
First Amazon has it right for the speed rating of 106 MPH for "r" rated ST.
Second the conflict that comes in is that Maxxis only recommends even the high speed ST tire that they call it is 65 MPH that's the law. Read the attached and it takes the myth out of speed ratings. Now this what I got but maybe some else can verify this.

Without a tire or picture of the tire sidewall showing the "Service Description" I would be VERY suspicious of information on the Interweb.
I have seen errors from a variety of tire companies web sites. This usually happens because the webmaster has no working knowledge of what a tire is.

This post shows one problem. People do not know how to "read" a tire sidewall and realize the "N" is the speed symbol part of the "Service Description"

rockfordroo · 06-02-2016, 05:45 PM

My Constancy tires are pretty clear:

"Speed rating "L" (75mph/120km/hr MAX)"

(And we're really giving Tireman a workout today - thanks, Tireman!)

Witch Doctor · 06-02-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfordroo

My Constancy tires are pretty clear:

"Speed rating "L" (75mph/120km/hr MAX)"

(And we're really giving Tireman a workout today - thanks, Tireman!)

I'm sorry but I have "d" rated but where is the "L" your talking about? I can't see it or don't know where to look. They keep saying mine are are rated "R" but do not mean I can travel on them constantly at the 106 MPH which would never happen. Just tested at that speed....Thanks for the reply..

rockfordroo · 06-02-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

I'm sorry but I have "d" rated but where is the "L" your talking about? I can't see it or don't know where to look. They keep saying mine are are rated "R" but do not mean I can travel on them constantly at the 106 MPH which would never happen. Just tested at that speed....Thanks for the reply..

Double click on my pic to blow it up larger. The "L" is right above the word "MAX" and just below the "S" in the word "Service."

Actually, here's a better pic:

lbrjet · 06-02-2016, 07:19 PM

Clear as day. 75 mph

2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K

Witch Doctor · 06-02-2016, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfordroo

Double click on my pic to blow it up larger. The "L" is right above the word "MAX" and just below the "S" in the word "Service."

Actually, here's a better pic:

I'll check for that in the morning, but as Amazon stated the high rated ST are "R" per there web site and what the attachment said, I will look. Thanks for the information. Never heard of a high speed ST as they claim. I didn't see that on the tires, but they said they are High rated which is new "R" rated. How old are your max's. mine are 2 mos old is what they told me...Thanks

uhduh camping · 06-02-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tireman9

Without a tire or picture of the tire sidewall showing the "Service Description" I would be VERY suspicious of information on the Interweb.
I have seen errors from a variety of tire companies web sites. This usually happens because the webmaster has no working knowledge of what a tire is.

This post shows one problem. People do not know how to "read" a tire sidewall and realize the "N" is the speed symbol part of the "Service Description"

Tireman9, I'm not sure why you insist on calling me out on this. OP stated that Amazon has Maxxis tires with an R rating. I was fairly certain he was misinformed though Amazon. I knew my tires did not have an R rating. I just knew that they had a higher rating than 65 MPH (CRS). So I snapped a pic and posted it for the OP.

OldCoot · 06-02-2016, 07:45 PM

You can check the date code yourself, the 1st 2 digits are the week and the 2nd 2 digits are the year. A tire two months old from today would be coded 1816, 1916,2016, 2116 or 2216.

Week 18= May 2, 2016
Week 19= May 9, 2016
Week 20= May 16, 2016
Week 21= May 23, 2016
Week 22= May 30, 2016

rockfordroo · 06-02-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

I'll check for that in the morning, but as Amazon stated the high rated ST are "R" per there web site and what the attachment said, I will look. Thanks for the information. Never heard of a high speed ST as they claim. I didn't see that on the tires, but they said they are High rated which is new "R" rated. How old are your max's. mine are 2 mos old is what they told me...Thanks

Mine aren't maxxi's, they're "Constancy." Not sure their age, I have had trouble finding the age code. Purchased the TT June 2016.

CaptnJohn · 06-02-2016, 11:21 PM

I bought my 5er last December an hour after it was delivered as an inventory unit. The build date was 2 weeks earlier. I looked at the tires and saw the manufacture date was the 1st week of August but noticed the speed rated higher than 65 which was a surprise. Metal valves and 80# PSI. Yes, China bombs but with 3000 miles they have not had any problems. Plan to change when I return from FL next March with about 6500. Probably Max but still open.

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