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11-22-2017, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73
Micro air soft start is one I think I have seen here.
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Yes, that's the one. My uncle used to rewind (much larger) motors. I know from that, that soft starting is so much better for them. Plus not toting a generator for 400% inrush just seems nice.
I'm probably the odd one. No biggy.
Oh, Black Friday ad shows a $350 delta between the big and small predators. The enclosed microair is about $300, but they have a pcb only one for like $220 or something like that. In theory slightly cheaper. Ha ha.
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11-23-2017, 10:32 PM
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#82
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Somewhere in the Ozarks...
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Originally Posted by WolfWhistle
Makes all the difference. For our little air conditioners it is. A Honda EU2000i can start and run a 13.5K Dometic air conditioner with SPP6 installed, and can't come close without it. Not saying I would try that hour after hour. Can you post a link or picture of an actual soft start (sic) module for a Dometic 13.5K AC?
FYI: https://highperformancehvac.com/star...c-compressors/
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I am able to run my ac with one generator and I don't have the SPP6. It really doesn't even bog down too much, which surprised me. So am I being too hard on my generator? If you are able to run what you need without the SPP6 is that okay or are you needlessly maxxing the generator out and does that even matter?!?
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11-23-2017, 11:24 PM
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#83
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
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I put the SPP6 on our 13.5 k unit and I could tell the difference both on shore power and running on the Champion 4000/3500 watt generator. For the money it’s well worth it. The best thing would be a true “ soft start”. Because I knew that I would have enough generator, I just went with the SPP6. I would estimate that the inrush of current was cut by 25-40 percent, judging by the sound. Jay
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11-25-2017, 08:14 PM
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#84
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73
Whether it runs your ac will depend on the size of your ac and other loads. I can / could run a 13.5 with one eu2000. But I had a hard start capacitor and to keep things happy I had to shut off the other loads like the convertor (which can draw 5 to 8 amps on its own) keep things in check.
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I suppose I should figure out how powerful the AC is, huh? We just purchased our 1st TT and still new to it. Had it a whole month and have only taken it out twice (if you count the trip to pick it up)!
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Originally Posted by aeblank
I plan to get a 2k predator and a soft start for the AC. It will *for sure* do it then (13.5k AC). Otherwise it's pretty dependent on temperatures and such, I believe.
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Just saw this on Newegg. I have about 6 hours to convince my spousal equivalent that it's a good buy. We have 4 3500 watt generators so she's trying to tell me that we just stick one of those in the back of the truck and use it instead.
Link: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA08C4FA5087
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12-18-2017, 08:28 PM
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#85
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 05CrewDually
I have an App on my phone with all current coupons. Here's the current coupon good until end of the month.
Attachment 147539
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How did you get the app? When I search App Store all I get is some paid third party app.
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12-18-2017, 09:09 PM
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#86
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cedar Creek Lake, TX
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Go to the HF website and sign up for their coupons. They offer some good deals.
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12-18-2017, 09:27 PM
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#87
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Member
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So I am getting two. The parallel kit harbor freight sells says that it is also compatible for linking Honda’s. Only problem is it’s only rated for up to 4000 watts as stated above. I’m assuming the parallel kit for the eu6000 should work perfect on the predator 3500 but would leave me with 6000w as opposed to 7000z
Alternatively could I just buy another brand set up for linking two 3500 watt generators and just swap the bananas?
The Powerhorse 3500 is almost identical to the predators but the plugs aren’t insulated/coated.
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12-18-2017, 11:08 PM
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#88
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2007 WildCat 32QBBS
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Location: NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccase39
How did you get the app? When I search App Store all I get is some paid third party app.
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From the Google play store. Here's a link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ware.offcoupon
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12-19-2017, 10:24 AM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 05CrewDually
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Of course it’s not available for iPhone. Argh
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12-19-2017, 10:25 AM
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2007 WildCat 32QBBS
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Location: NJ
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IPhone. Lol Sorry. If I see a coupon pop up I'll post it here for you.
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12-19-2017, 10:36 AM
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#91
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccase39
Of course it’s not available for iPhone. Argh
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Just go to the HF web site on your iphone.
You can find all the coupons there.
I did this for a couple years before the app came out.
They can scan them right off your phone.
The app just conveniently places them all in one spot.
Also... the Android HF coupon app is third party.
I suspect the iphone one to be the same.
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01-06-2018, 09:06 PM
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#92
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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I have been using the Honda parallel kit and it works perfectly.
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02-18-2018, 08:50 AM
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#93
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Junior Member
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Location: On the Road
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I need some generator help...
I've got two HF Predator 3500's with the Champion Parallel Kit but my rig is only displaying 30 Amp Service. I've checked each generator individually and I get 30 Amp Service from each. What am I doing wrong here?
TIA!!!
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02-18-2018, 08:57 AM
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#94
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Who Dares, Wins
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
Posts: 7,063
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomedayIsToday
I need some generator help...
I've got two HF Predator 3500's with the Champion Parallel Kit but my rig is only displaying 30 Amp Service. I've checked each generator individually and I get 30 Amp Service from each. What am I doing wrong here?
TIA!!!
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Even when parralled it might only give 30 amps. Does it's specs say it will do 50amps in parallel?
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02-18-2018, 09:08 AM
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#95
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 420
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomedayIsToday
I need some generator help...
I've got two HF Predator 3500's with the Champion Parallel Kit but my rig is only displaying 30 Amp Service. I've checked each generator individually and I get 30 Amp Service from each. What am I doing wrong here?
TIA!!!
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My bet is your rig looks for 220 v to show 50 amp which hear generators can’t do.
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02-18-2018, 09:16 AM
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#96
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: On the Road
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The Champion Parallel Kit is a 50-Amp RV ready kit. It's supposed to provide 50 amps of output. I've got the rig connected to the 50-Amp plug on the parallel kit so... What am I missing?
I guess that my next step is to test the actual output of the 50-Amp plug, on the parallel kit, with a voltmeter to see if I have two legs of power.
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02-18-2018, 09:21 AM
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#97
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomedayIsToday
The Champion Parallel Kit is a 50-Amp RV ready kit. It's supposed to provide 50 amps of output. I've got the rig connected to the 50-Amp plug on the parallel kit so... What am I missing?
I guess that my next step is to test the actual output of the 50-Amp plug, on the parallel kit, with a voltmeter to see if I have two legs of power.
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Shouldn’t it really be providing 100 amps?
Bruce
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02-18-2018, 09:49 AM
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#98
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Who Dares, Wins
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
Posts: 7,063
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad297
Shouldn’t it really be providing 100 amps?
Bruce
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I am talking out my butt.. But you are using a champion parralled kit with a hf predator geni... Is the champion kit even compatible with the predator? Or it might give 50 amps with a champion but that does not necessarily mean that the same is true for another brand.
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02-18-2018, 09:49 AM
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Who Dares, Wins
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad297
Shouldn’t it really be providing 100 amps?
Bruce
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Yes, but 50amps on each leg.
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02-18-2018, 11:15 AM
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#100
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: On the Road
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73
I am talking out my butt.. But you are using a champion parralled kit with a hf predator geni... Is the champion kit even compatible with the predator? Or it might give 50 amps with a champion but that does not necessarily mean that the same is true for another brand.
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Thanks Doc73! I'm thinking that you may have a point about the compatibility of the Champion kit with the Predator gens. I'm still looking into it. HF is supposed to be coming out with a 50-Amp RV parallel kit soon so I may just have to deal with 30 amps for a bit.
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