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Old 11-02-2015, 10:58 PM   #41
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X2 on the Honda. I would compare noise levels. The Honda models are really quiet.
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:00 PM   #42
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I always come here to get the BEST advice from the experts - you! We purchased a Forest River travel trailer new this summer but do not yet have a generator for tailgating, etc. What size do we need to run everything, including the AC? I do know we need an inverter generator for the noise. Any help you can give? Anywhere we could get a used one to mitigate the high cost?
I know everyone has their own opinion. Here are my views having a lot of experience with generators. First you do not want the old fashion 3600RPM generator. You need an inverter generator if you plan to use it in public. My advice is to get either a Honda or a Yamaha and forget the other brands that are made in China. Don't be fooled by American sounding brands.

My brother thought he'd save money by buying a Generac generator in Home Depot. He told me it was made in the USA. Nope. Made in China and the thing couldn't power his A/C and finally quit working after 2 weeks. He took it back and bought a Yamaha and has been happy ever since.

Honda or Yamaha. Spend the money and do it right. Get the 3000 models and you'll be able to do what you want.

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Old 11-02-2015, 11:22 PM   #43
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I bought a Lifan 3600. All the specs were equal to the Honda 3000is at the time. Found out after I took delivery the spec's were a little off! Maximum surge was 3200 watts with continuous of 2800-3000 at full speed. But, the good news it has worked well for me the past three years. I only use it to power the A/C and watch some TV. One big problem is, it's carbureted. So it gets fowled at high altitudes. The Lifan's are hard to find in the US anymore.
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Old 11-03-2015, 04:33 AM   #44
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IMHO, a pair of paralleled 2000w inverter generators is the best choice.
if you won't need the a/c, then you only need to take one 50lb. generator.

you have options.

that would include Honda, Yamaha, Champion, Smarter Tools, Generac, Ryobi, Powerhouse, Kipor and Lifan models.
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Champion 4000 electric remote start does a great job for under $600. I haul it in Cedar Creek Custom basement to run 15k heat pump. Have extra battery for C-PAP and charge with ginny.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:23 PM   #46
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Honda or Yamaha are the quietest but if noise is not a factor buy you a cheap 4 thousand or 5 thousand watt that's what a lot of people use at race tracks
Actually the Honda 2000 and the Champion 2000 have the same db rating at 23 feet (7 meters).
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:49 PM   #47
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Quoted from the bottom of the 'Honda Quiet DB Chart':
"Noise levels at rated load to reflect maximum noise level possible, measured at 9 Feet (3 Meters) from the control panel side of the generator".

http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/super-quiet

One must remember that DB vs noise level isn't linear.
"While every 6 dB SPL represents a doubling of amplitude, a rule-of-thumb is that every 10 dB increase is a doubling of perceived loudness"
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More data:
Honda's Advertised Specs:
53 dB(A), 0% Load, Measured at 9 ft.
59 dB(A), 100% Load, Measured at 9 ft.

Champion's Advertised Specs:
53 dB(A), 0% Load, Measured at 23 ft.
65 dB(A), 100% Load, Measured at 23 ft.

Champion's Advertising states: "As a rule of thumb, the noise level decreases 6 dB when the distance from the source is doubled." That would put Honda's 100% Load noise level at approximately 50 dB(A) at 23 ft vs Champion's 65 dB(A). If one can assume both advertisements are true, Honda is clearly the 'quietest animal'.
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According to these home pages they both have the same rating.

Champion Home Page - db at 23 feet (7 meters) - 53db
2000W Inverter Generator - Champion Power Equipment

Honda Home Page - db at 7 meters (23 feet) - 53db
Honda Canada
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I bought the 3100W Powerhouse gen when I bought my TT because it was inexpensive at $1,000 and can easily power our 13.5K AC. Auto start is nice too. Down side is that it's heavy and takes two people to get it in or out of the truck. After camping for a couple of years decided to buy a (cheap) Powerhorse 2000W. It is enough to keep the battery charged when dry docked and the wife can still use her small hairdryer with it. Not as quiet as a Honda but only cost $599 with free shipping from Northern tool. I prefer the 2KW cause it only weighs 65lbs and I can load/unload it by myself. Takes less space in truck too. Can add a companion to it for 4000W also.
We found that we don't use the genny that much, mostly just to keep battery charged so a single 2K works for us.



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