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Old 09-06-2016, 09:56 PM   #1
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Nitrogen filled tires

My tires came from the factory nitrogen filled. My question is if they are low on air and need air added. Do you just put add air from a gas station or do you have to find a place where you can get nitrogen put in them. Does it matter or is there something else you have to do?


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Old 09-06-2016, 10:04 PM   #2
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Nitrogen filled tires

Please do a search for Nitrogen in the search box at the top. This topic has been beat to smithereens multiple times and discussion of same almost always turns into a spitting contest. It's as hot a topic as Diesel vs. Gas, Ford vs. Chevy, propane refrigerator On vs. Off during travel. Each of 319 opinions have been expressed and in almost every thread on same, one can find someone posting "I'll get the popcorn."

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Old 09-06-2016, 10:07 PM   #3
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There are many passionate threads on about any RV forum about nitrogen filled tires. My personal opinion is unless your application is an airplane ... nitrogen in your tires is pretty much an expensive sales pitch that just doesn't live up to the hype. The air you breath is already 78% nitrogen. Nitrogen fill stations are pricey, and few and far in-between. Unless the tire store evacuated the air from the tire before they filled it ... it has some regular air in it anyways. Spend you hard earned money on something that matters.
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Yep, Google the subject and you will find all kinds of claims, but in the end testing found there was minimal benefit and much higher cost. Our RV came with nitrogen filled tires and my opinion is that it is a gimmick. And good luck finding a place that has nitrogen. In the southwest they are almost impossible to find. Snake oil😁

Fill them with air and don't worry about it.
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Please do a search for Nitrogen in the search box at the top. This topic has been beat to smithereens multiple times and discussion of same almost always turns into a spitting contest. It's as hot a topic as Diesel vs. Gas, Ford vs. Chevy, propane refrigerator On vs. Off during travel. Each of 319 opinions have been expressed and in almost every thread on same one can find someone posting "I'll get the popcorn."

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I just took the sticker off the side of my new trailer. Nobody I know cares if it has nitrogen in the tires and I certainly don't either. If it really has nitrogen, (how would you know?) it will be the last time.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:55 AM   #8
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Ok sorry to start a war. When my nitrogen Field tires get low. I will just go to a gas station and refill them with regular air. Thank you


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Even the tire and car dealers will off the record admit that for passenger cars and trailers it is just a sales gimmick. Different story for aircraft and racing tires.

I have personally seen no benefit, but pass the popcorn I will catch it


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Whenever I fill my tires, I always use an 80% nitrogen mix, Its been working for me for years.

NOTE - the air you breath is 80% nitrogen, the compressor at the gas station will do just fine, it also is 80%.

Why I use 1100% nitrogen in my airplane tires:

1) We use a high pressure nitrogen bottle (3000 psi) when we service our tires to as much as 250 psi. Most standard compressors will not get to the pressure we need in our tires, and are horribly inconvenient to haul around to check and add air to tires.

2) Gas station compressors don't dry the air. The nitrogen in the tank is waterless, and has been dried, thus eliminating the possibility of water condensing and freezing inside the tire. Unless you drive your car at 40,000 ft with an outside air temperature of -65 degrees, this will probably not be an issue.


3) Autoignition - When a 250 psi tire reaches a temperature of approximately 500 Deg F, There is a possibility of the tire exploding if it has an oxygen source internal (not filled with 100% Nitrogen). The FAA has tested this and has issued an directive to use 100% nitrogen.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...d!OpenDocument

4) At the high pressure, nitrogen is molecularity larger than an oxygen molecule, and can reduce minor losses of tire pressure and minor degradation of tire rubber due to oxygen impregnating the rubbers used in tires. (very minor issue, but is more of an impact with high pressure tires (450 psi)

Its important to note that item #4 isn't the reason Nitrogen is used in airplane tires, but is a small side effect of using nitrogen in aircraft tires.

The main reason is items #1 and to a lesser degree, #2. #3 is somewhat irrelevant, as at 500 Deg, the tire is on fire.

I suspect if I took two aircraft tires inflated to 250 psi, one was inflated with shop air and the other out of a nitrogen tank. You could set them on the ramp for ten years, and when you come back, you'd see the one with shop air lost a couple psi more than the one with 100 % nitrogen.


CONCLUSION - Would I use nitrogen in my car tires? No, the extremely small benefits for car tires isn't worth the addition work or cost.

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