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Old 07-06-2015, 01:35 PM   #11
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Well, being there isn't a possibility. My father will be here with me when it arrives and he is an RV genius (in my opinion). He has had just about every type of RV built and is now sporting a huge 2015 Beaver Entegra 44' motor home. He's going to give me one of his legendary military briefings on all things RV. I've rented several as well, so hopefully I will know how to operate just about everything.

I am pretty handy with power tools and engineering and will probably be able to improve the design given a few days to work on it. I tend to rebuild just about everything I buy. My first task will be to reinforce everything with pared drilled, countersunk, stainless screws. Secondly, I plan on reinforcing the suspension and frame components.

Apparently Vibe moved to a completely difference frame in 2015. It now uses all bolt on components and structure vs welded. This is a huge advantage because up don't get the metal fatigue and weakening you get with welds. I will tighten and secure everything to the frame.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:14 PM   #12
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Why ask for a signature when you don't think you'll get one? Also you need to know the RV industry, a friend of mine called RV's nothing but a box of air on wheels. You may want to change your expectations. Plan for problems and then they may not bother you so much. We love our new Forest River Wildcat even though I've had to some self repairs.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:20 PM   #13
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I am curious as to why you wouldnt be there? Are you not picking it up at all? It is being delivered to a dealer? I assume you would have to pick it up at that point, why not do your own PDI then?

Not to be rude but this course of action seems terrible in my opinion. Just read all the posts of people having problems and then scroll down like 3 to 4 comments and they admit to not doing a PDI or not doing an adequate PDI in person. My dealer has been fantastic but I found a few things they missed. Your list seems good if you were doing it but I wouldn't trust them to do it for you.

Good luck and I hope it all works out for you.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:26 PM   #14
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I am curious as to why you wouldnt be there? Are you not picking it up at all? It is being delivered to a dealer? I assume you would have to pick it up at that point, why not do your own PDI then?

Not to be rude but this course of action seems terrible in my opinion. Just read all the posts of people having problems and then scroll down like 3 to 4 comments and they admit to not doing a PDI or not doing an adequate PDI in person. My dealer has been fantastic but I found a few things they missed. Your list seems good if you were doing it but I wouldn't trust them to do it for you.

Good luck and I hope it all works out for you.
Well, I am doing a PDI, but after its being delivered to me. I'm 1250 mile from the dealership. I actually got off the phone with a peer who supports a Forest River as their network vendor. He lives about an hour from Goshen and has some great upper level contacts at their facility. He purchased his unit from Couch also and spent a lot of time at the factory watching his get built. He is going to do a PDI while it's still at the plant for me. He also is going to bring their senior inspector in to help. I'm hoping my connection pays off.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:30 PM   #15
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It all means nothing - you need to be there for the PDI - as my belief is half the problems are caused by the buyer. You need to know how to use everything as most dealers and service departments don't even know and most places don't give thorough PDI's so customers know how to correctly use everything. The other half is getting service. Everyone tries to get things fixed at the same time of year - and they need it now. It leaves many campers in the sorry position of having their units in the service dept for months instead of out camping. One of the most important things I have learned is where you buy it and who you will be dealing with in the future (there will be issues and repairs needed). I have noticed they all seem to be so helpful before the sale - and after you are dealing with their service dept - not the salesman. Forget about the salesman - go in person to their service department and see if you can get along with their service department manager as he is the one you will be dealing with ...
X3 on this. I spent 5 hrs at my local dealership getting pdi repairs done. I have had a ton of other issues (major and minor) since. I learned first hand how important the pdi, relationship with the local dealership and factory are. It took a year to get it straightened out but at the end I have nothing but positive to say about forest river customer service and my local dealership (bill Plemmons in Raleigh). I Would fly up to do the pdi and then take delivery later if I were you.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:38 PM   #16
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Well, I am doing a PDI, but after its being delivered to me. I'm 1250 mile from the dealership. I actually got off the phone with a peer who supports a Forest River as their network vendor. He lives about an hour from Goshen and has some great upper level contacts at their facility. He purchased his unit from Couch also and spent a lot of time at the factory watching his get built. He is going to do a PDI while it's still at the plant for me. He also is going to bring their senior inspector in to help. I'm hoping my connection pays off.
Ok, I get it now, your dealer is in Ohio you are in Texas. You want the dealer to do PDI and fix everything then it will be delivered to Texas from the dealer in Ohio. I understand what is going on now.

Is the dealer delivering it? or a third party transporter? Also, what is your plan for repair and warranty work? In my area (SLC-UTAH) all dealers are backed up in repairs and they often times turn you away if you didn't purchase from them due to the long waits and dealing with their own customers first. I am sure you weighed all of the pros and cons of a local dealer but just have a back up plan in case the unit shows up with something wrong either from the pdi or the two transports it has to endure.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you!
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:44 PM   #17
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Ok, I get it now, your dealer is in Ohio you are in Texas. You want the dealer to do PDI and fix everything then it will be delivered to Texas from the dealer in Ohio. I understand what is going on now.

Is the dealer delivering it? or a third party transporter? Also, what is your plan for repair and warranty work? In my area (SLC-UTAH) all dealers are backed up in repairs and they often times turn you away if you didn't purchase from them due to the long waits and dealing with their own customers first. I am sure you weighed all of the pros and cons of a local dealer but just have a back up plan in case the unit shows up with something wrong either from the pdi or the two transports it has to endure.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you!
Exactly. I am paying Couch RV to deliver it. They use a national company which I'm sure subs out work to owner operators. Even if I were their to do the PDI, the trek down to Texas would probably cause more issues. One of the The local dealers I have spoken to says they are backed up but even on their own units. They said they have no problem doing warranty work for units purchased at other dealers. They work them in the same as they do locally purchased units. Regardless, I plan on doing most of the repairs myself, if needed.
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:19 PM   #18
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Exactly. I am paying Couch RV to deliver it. They use a national company which I'm sure subs out work to owner operators. Even if I were their to do the PDI, the trek down to Texas would probably cause more issues. One of the The local dealers I have spoken to says they are backed up but even on their own units. They said they have no problem doing warranty work for units purchased at other dealers. They work them in the same as they do locally purchased units. Regardless, I plan on doing most of the repairs myself, if needed.
That's good that you have already talked with them and started building that relationship, it will most likely help. It sounds like your bases are covered and it's just a waiting game until the TT shows up. Hopefully this will all be for nothing and you wont need any repairs or anything that needs a dealer.
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:42 PM   #19
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we bought our HTT from a dealer 2000 miles away.
but we went there to pick it up.
that way we saved a ton of money on delivery charges, were present for a 3hr PDI and just turned the return into a camping trip.
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