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Old 08-23-2006, 05:31 PM   #1
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Unhappy Question

I was reading the forum on Good Sam and ran across this.
Great idea!
Now see if anyone can answer this.

Why does a great manufacturer like Forest River put lousy tires on their rigs?
Tires in question,,,carlisle,,,of course

We bought a new Wildwood LA in may and before going 300 miles a tire delaminated and threw the tread into the trailer underbelly. Tore it up pretty bad. Got a new tire from dealer and continued on. To make a much longer story a little shorter,had another 2 throw tread and now both sides are tore up,and look like hell.Carlisle is paying to have trailer repaired,but I now have a trailer that isn't NEW, it is repaired.
I did a search on carlisle tires on Good Sam forum and it seems that this has been a problem for quite a while. Why are they still being used? Why do I have to pay for poor quality?
Sorry for the rant, but I had to let it out.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:56 PM   #2
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I can only speculate that Carlisle has a contract with Forest River to supply all of their tires. Who knows how long it is or what the terms are. I have Carlisles on my Flagstaff and have yet to have any problem with them (knocks on head).

Even though there are a lot of posts on various forums about them, apparently the percentage of failures is very small in relation to the total number sold, which would be a reason FR keeps using them. Just some of my thoughts. Others are welcome to chime in with their thoughts and opinions.
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:47 AM   #3
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All five of mine (spare too) did the same thing. They were four years old and that is when Carlisle recommends replacing them even if they still have good tread. All four of mine started cracking and showing the belts on the same trip.

If your tires are new, then as always be sure to have the correct (max cold) tire pressure. It seems to be the number one consideration in TT tire life and durability.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:43 PM   #4
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I think most of the tire failure is due to over inflation. Figure it states 80 psi max cold on the side of the tire, people inflate the tire to 80 psi, well, what happens when air heats up from driving, it expands, hence over inflated tire leading to tire failure.

This is just my opinion, I don't have any proof nor have I ever checked the tire pressure after getting to my destination. Personally I inflate my tires to around 65 to 70 psi and have never had a tire problem with any RVs I've owned. Most of the time I end up replacing tires due to dry rot more so because of tread wear.
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:15 PM   #5
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Mine also has the tires in question. I check them before EVERY pull and so far so good.

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Old 08-27-2006, 04:01 PM   #6
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luckly i think my new sandpiper came with hi-wat troopers have heard anything bad about them yet ...keeping my fingers crossed
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:26 PM   #7
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Have had our Rockwood 8285SS Fiver for about two years and 6,000 miles of travel. I, too, have been concerned about our Carlisle tires. However, I check tire pressure (50 lbs cold) each and every time I hitch up, as well as each time I check the unit while in storage. Tires have never lost any pressure. Can say this about only a very few of the many other vehicle tires I've owned over the past nearly 50 years.

Additionally, when I visited the Rockwood Assembly Plant prior to ordering our fiver, I questioned the use of Carlisle tires and I was told that Carlisle provides over 90% of all tires used on non-motorized RV's and that's perhaps the reason you hear so many negative reports about Carlisle tires. Stands to reason, if they actually do have that large of a share of the market, we would certainly hear more about their tires, especially the "bad" news.
I never found a way to corrobborate (sp?) the Rockwood representative's statement, so it's up to you whether to believe it or not. I'm still going to remain vigilent regarding our tires.
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:15 PM   #8
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My Carlisles have not blown out but are wearing and feathering unevenly. The dealer (who I trust ) has check the axle alignment and wheel pitch and everything is perfect. They say the tires are delaminating, causing the strange wear pattern. The 2 rear tires are losing tread and have severe feathering on the inside, 1 front tire is the same and the other front tire looks brand new. Looks like i was headed for some trouble down the road.They are replacing them under warrantry.

Ps: all tire pressure has been checked before and during each trip.
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I think most of the tire failure is due to over inflation. Figure it states 80 psi max cold on the side of the tire, people inflate the tire to 80 psi, well, what happens when air heats up from driving, it expands, hence over inflated tire leading to tire failure.

This is just my opinion, I don't have any proof nor have I ever checked the tire pressure after getting to my destination. Personally I inflate my tires to around 65 to 70 psi and have never had a tire problem with any RVs I've owned. Most of the time I end up replacing tires due to dry rot more so because of tread wear.
well not quite
they are rated to be at 80 psi cold and within WEIGHT parameters, if it says not to exceed 2000 lbs then 2k it is. as it heats up teh tire is designed to handle the additional PSI provided its still within weight guidelines for the tire

my MERITS are rated at 3042 at 80 psi
my axles are rated at 6k each so 3k on each tire, I run 80 psi and try not to exceed the 3000k per wheel although it has happened a few times by 50lbs

other forces are also affecting the tires, SPEED is a biggie most ST tires are not rated to be tooling along above 65
most larger rvs come with LT tires (lght truck) which are rated to go above 65 mph

as for why merits or carlisles, simply who got the contract thats all.
are they just enough to carry the DESIGNED load? yes
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