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Old 02-26-2015, 09:42 AM   #11
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I use both, and better than 75% of site we camp at slope because we like waterfront site. For me, I live by a simple method that works. Whatever side has to be raised to level side-to-side gets the X-chock. The other side gets my old, homemade version of the Fastway One-Step.

An X-chock will not always hold your camper from rolling depending upon axle type and spacing. I've seen on closely spaced Torflex tandems let it roll. If you think about the mechanics of how one works, it should be expected with certain circumstances to happen. As much as something is attempted to be a one (or two-size X-tended X-chock), there's always an exception.
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:48 AM   #12
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I use both, and better than 75% of site we camp at slope because we like waterfront site. For me, I live by a simple method that works. Whatever side has to be raised to level side-to-side gets the X-chock. The other side gets my old, homemade version of the Fastway One-Step.

An X-chock will not always hold your camper from rolling depending upon axle type and spacing. I've seen on closely spaced Torflex tandems let it roll. If you think about the mechanics of how one works, it should be expected with certain circumstances to happen. As much as something is attempted to be a one (or two-size X-tended X-chock), there's always an exception.
IMO, if it rolls with Bal X Chocks, they are not tight enough. The simple design of them ,if tight enough initially, will actually tighten them more if it tries to roll.
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:52 AM   #13
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X-chock only. i tighten them up. For some odd reason i for got to remove one of them on one trip. It held the wheels solid. drug them about a foot in a dirt field while boondocking.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:03 AM   #14
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IMO, if it rolls with Bal X Chocks, they are not tight enough. The simple design of them ,if tight enough initially, will actually tighten them more if it tries to roll.
I would agree with you on 95% of applications. However, take a look at a 21ss HTT - Torflex axles and spacing wheel-to-wheel is very tight. The X-chock cannot open sufficiently for "bite" plus the play you have with the Torflex. I once spoke to BAL about checkering the feet on the X-chock to solve the problem.

For a 21ss, Roto-Choks are the ticket!
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I would agree with you on 95% of applications. However, take a look at a 21ss HTT - Torflex axles and spacing wheel-to-wheel is very tight. The X-chock cannot open sufficiently for "bite" plus the play you have with the Torflex. I once spoke to BAL about checkering the feet on the X-chock to solve the problem.

For a 21ss, Roto-Choks are the ticket!
Don't know on the 21ssHTT, my Flagstaffs have both had less than 3" between the tires, both had/have torsion axles and as I said, when I tighten them, I can't even pull the trailer.
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Don't know on the 21ssHTT, my Flagstaffs have both had less than 3" between the tires, both had/have torsion axles and as I said, when I tighten them, I can't even pull the trailer.
I suddenly have the picture of OC with 24" breaker bar!

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I suddenly have the picture of OC with 24" breaker bar!

No, just use the ratchets that come with the chocks.
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:53 AM   #18
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In my defense.... my x chock has a built on cam/over handle and no
ratchet. You set it with a wrench to fit your tire gap and then use the
cam over handle. My previous trailer had rubber insert torsion axles
and the tires would push apart somewhat when I installed the chock so
I could never get it -that- tight. I did put some peel and stick industrial
anti skid stair tread "sandpaper" on the chock faces and that helped it get much better grip on the tires.
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In my defense.... my x chock has a built on cam/over handle and no
ratchet. You set it with a wrench to fit your tire gap and then use the
cam over handle. My previous trailer had rubber insert torsion axles
and the tires would push apart somewhat when I installed the chock so
I could never get it -that- tight. I did put some peel and stick industrial
anti skid stair tread "sandpaper" on the chock faces and that helped it get much better grip on the tires.
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IMO, if it rolls with Bal X Chocks, they are not tight enough. The simple design of them ,if tight enough initially, will actually tighten them more if it tries to roll.
I agree. We use Roto-Choks. They work great if your axles are close enough together. Our trailer never budges.
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