Retiring soon

Willie Hayes Jr · 02-03-2019, 01:39 PM

In a few months I will retire. I have considered buying a Toy Hauler (Keystone Outback 240URS). Now that I have seen the Rockwood 2612WS, I want it. My question: what pick-up truck should I buy to both haul (in the truck bed) a Yamaha 950 V-Star and also tow, up to a 8,000lb trailer?

NMWildcat · 02-03-2019, 01:47 PM

In my opinion, any smaller size toy hauler needs a 3/4 ton minimum.

Indy500 · 02-03-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Hayes Jr

In a few months I will retire. I have considered buying a Toy Hauler (Keystone Outback 240URS). Now that I have seen the Rockwood 2612WS, I want it. My question: what pick-up truck should I buy to both haul (in the truck bed) a Yamaha 950 V-Star and also tow, up to a 8,000lb trailer?

Imho, you will need 3/4ton or bigger. You are talking about a lot of weight.
I'm looking for the 2612ws toy hauler but dont see one

aceinspp · 02-03-2019, 02:37 PM

Welcome to the forum. Good luck on your up coming retirement. The tt model you listed is not a toy hauler. If in deed you are going with the toy hauler I would recommend a 3/4 truck for trailer you are looking at. Later RJD

camper70 · 02-03-2019, 02:46 PM

Congrats on your upcoming retirement. Get out there and enjoy it. This is the best job I ever had although the pay could be better.

dblr · 02-03-2019, 02:50 PM

Congrats on retiring!!!!!!!! With a bike in the bed plus pull the camper I myself would prefer a 3/4 minimum just to be on the safe side, I believe in having to much truck. Good luck on your decision.

**bikendan** · 02-03-2019, 03:45 PM

If the OP plans on a regular large TT and putting a heavy motorcycle in the bed, might as well get a 1 ton SRW truck.
Not gonna cost that much more than 3/4 ton.

Indy500 · 02-03-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bikendan

If the OP plans on a regular large TT and putting a heavy motorcycle in the bed, might as well get a 1 ton SRW truck.
Not gonna cost that much more than 3/4 ton.

X2

Teetime · 02-03-2019, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bikendan

If the OP plans on a regular large TT and putting a heavy motorcycle in the bed, might as well get a 1 ton SRW truck.
Not gonna cost that much more than 3/4 ton.

I'm sure someone will give you all the techs, etc. about how you can tow with a 1/2 ton with extra suspension, tires, brakes, etc. ....

Get a 1 ton and be safe

Kimber45 · 02-03-2019, 05:57 PM

A one ton truck for a 8000 pound camper? you guys crack me up. Must be the guys driving hd trucks pulling things with micro in the name. depending on the usage a max tow 1/2 ton truck could handle it and would be a much better daily driver.

I miss my 1/2 ton and regret getting a bigger camper requiring and HD. One day I will go back down and get something 1/2 ton towable.

I would put the toy in the toy hauler and not in the bed of the truck plus a camper.

larry2c · 02-03-2019, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimber45

A one ton truck for a 8000 pound camper? you guys crack me up. Must be the guys driving hd trucks pulling things with micro in the name. depending on the usage a max tow 1/2 ton truck could handle it and would be a much better daily driver.

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OP says he will be putting a 700# plus motorcycle in the bed of the truck - plus gear, people, whatever and then the tongue weight of the TT. I'd go with the 3/4 Ton minimum

Kimber45 · 02-03-2019, 06:06 PM

The OP hasn't bought anything yet and is looking at two units. one of which is a toy hauler.

My17Ram · 02-03-2019, 06:07 PM

Suzuki Vstrom 650 and Harley 883 Sportster ride just fine in my Ram 1500 with the 233s in tow. Tuftruck 1223 v coils, Hellwig sway bar and Bilstein 4600 shocks on the truck.

Indy500 · 02-03-2019, 06:24 PM

We all know, that sooner or later things grow. Even toys, if he is going to buy a truck for the setup he wants now. Why not go ahead and get 1 ton now
I wish I would have got the ton

**bikendan** · 02-03-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimber45

The OP hasn't bought anything yet and is looking at two units. one of which is a toy hauler.

The OP specifically said: "My question: what pick-up truck should I buy to both haul (in the truck bed) a Yamaha 950 V-Star and also tow, up to a 8,000lb trailer?"

That's his question, since he wants a particular NON-toyhauler TT.
That's why I posted what I did.

Kimber45 · 02-03-2019, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bikendan

The OP specifically said: "My question: what pick-up truck should I buy to both haul (in the truck bed) a Yamaha 950 V-Star and also tow, up to a 8,000lb trailer?"

That's his question, since he wants a particular NON-toyhauler TT.
That's why I posted what I did.

which is odd because the other model listed only weighs 6,000 pounds with only a 700 pound tongue weight. 700 pound tounge weight and a 700 pound bike I don't think he is any where near the one ton range. but I would still rather have the toy hauler then loading the bike in and out of the truck.

Willie Hayes Jr · 02-03-2019, 10:47 PM

Because I have seen the Rockwood 2612, I have no intention of buying a toy hauler. I would rather buy the Rockwood and haul my bike in the bed of a capable truck. Now let me ask you guys again. What size truck, Ford, GM, or Ram could tow both a Rockwood travel trailer and a motorcycle in its truck bed?

NMWildcat · 02-03-2019, 11:02 PM

My answer would still be the same. I advise anyone getting into the RV hobby, that is buying a tow vehicle, to just start off with at least a 3/4 ton. Could a half ton do it? Maybe. But a bigger truck for towing is always better, and if you are like most folks, your next RV won't be lighter

**bikendan** · 02-03-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Hayes Jr

Because I have seen the Rockwood 2612, I have no intention of buying a toy hauler. I would rather buy the Rockwood and haul my bike in the bed of a capable truck. Now let me ask you guys again. What size truck, Ford, GM, or Ram could tow both a Rockwood travel trailer and a motorcycle in its truck bed?

I gave my opinion already. 3/4 minimum but for a little more, a 1 ton SRW would be my choice.

HangDiver · 02-03-2019, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Hayes Jr

Because I have seen the Rockwood 2612, I have no intention of buying a toy hauler. I would rather buy the Rockwood and haul my bike in the bed of a capable truck. Now let me ask you guys again. What size truck, Ford, GM, or Ram could tow both a Rockwood travel trailer and a motorcycle in its truck bed?

I'll take a crack at this. I know motorcycles (yes I've owned a V-Star, Harleys, etc) and trucks/cars. I'm not familiar with the Rockwood 2612 so I'll use the published specs.
The V-Star 950 FI will add 660lbs to the bed of your next truck. Add your riding gear, fuel, etc and figure 700lbs. Your Rockwood will have a gross vehicle weight (GVW) closing in on 8,000lbs (dry weight + available payload). If we assume a hitch weight of 13% of GVW expect a hitch weight of 1,040lbs. Add another 100lbs for a weight distributed hitch (WDH). The simple math is 700lbs for the bike + 1140lbs for a loaded trailer (water and loaded ready to travel) and you're looking at 1,840lbs on the back of the truck. Add to that number the weight of any other cargo, occupants, etc, to the truck. Given the bike in the back you're likely going to want a 6.5ft bed. This leads you to a 3/4-ton truck. Some would argue that a 1-ton is just a little more money than a 3/4-ton and allows you room to grow into a larger camper later on if you chose to do that, or a Harely Road King (sorry, had to throw that in ;-) )

Ford, Chevy, Ram, take you're pick (I'm a Ford enthusiast). One approach is to walk the car lots and check the yellow payload sticker on the drivers side door jamb (see example below). Getting a truck with enough payload to carry your scoot, hitch weight, cargo and occupants is most important. The manufacturer of that truck is probably 2nd most important.

And welcome to retirement. Its as wonderful as you make it.

Rich J.

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