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07-01-2015, 09:40 PM
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Sw6de in a 98 Salem doesn't work at all.
Hey all. New to this forum. I bought a 98 Salem last year. Just went to try the hwh, sw6de, doesn't work on gas or ac. The hwh has the ac plug connected and outlet is good. There was 3 wires in hwh compartment broken off at the wall that run to the dsi switch, a red, blue, and green. The wires look like they should run to a holder on the hwh then some inside an some run to the control board, green and blue I believe. None had any power on either side. I'm not to concerned with the gas function yet, just tired of the wife yelling about no hot water so I gotta fix something. I replaced the element, made sure it was full of water before I flipped the rocker switch in the hwh compartment, waited 15-20 minutes and still had no water. Any suggestions on where to start or what to look for? Whether it's related or not I'm not sure, but none of my gfci outlets work either, and there's no reset on them. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
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07-01-2015, 10:34 PM
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07-02-2015, 05:53 AM
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I read through that a few times. Im mainly looking to make mine work on electric but either will be fine. I have no power to the unit from 12 volt switch inside camper. I can't find a fuse for it so I'm not to sure what to do
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07-02-2015, 06:26 AM
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I would venture a guess the 110v hi limit is tripped or burnt out. It would be one of the two rubber buttons in the black plastic box on the back of the wh.
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07-02-2015, 06:28 AM
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If those are the buttons under the big rubber cover we tries to push them in and they don't move or anything.
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07-02-2015, 06:31 AM
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Btw you will NOT have hot water in 15 minutes.
How did you insure water tank is full?
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07-02-2015, 06:35 AM
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I knew the water wouldn't be hot. We assumed it would be warm. At least some different then the hose. I ran the taps inside til water came consistent after I flipped the valve in the water heater itself.
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07-02-2015, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cbigger87
I knew the water wouldn't be hot. We assumed it would be warm. At least some different then the hose. I ran the taps inside til water came consistent after I flipped the valve in the water heater itself.
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Not sure what you mean "flipped the valve in the water heater"
"Pressure relief valve"?
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07-02-2015, 06:39 AM
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Idk the exact name. It's the only valve in the water heater an the only one that every forum I've read references to. At the top of the heater there's a small metal tab to pull up and let the water drain until the air is out
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07-02-2015, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cbigger87
Idk the exact name. It's the only valve in the water heater an the only one that every forum I've read references to. At the top of the heater there's a small metal tab to pull up and let the water drain until the air is out
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Ok good.
I'm with oc "limit" switch.
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07-02-2015, 06:41 AM
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Ive tried to push them and they seem solid, as in they won't move at all. Is there a way to test them or verify power to them ?
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07-02-2015, 06:42 AM
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In the "files" section here on frf there is a suburban trouble shooting guide.
If your using the browser.
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07-02-2015, 06:44 AM
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On my suburban I can "hear" the "sizzle" when heating using electric.
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07-02-2015, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cbigger87
Ive tried to push them and they seem solid, as in they won't move at all. Is there a way to test them or verify power to them ?
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As a test only, remove the rubber plugs and install a jumper across the terminals or just tape the terminals together AFTER YOU DISCONNECT THE SHORELINE. THIS WILL DETERMINE IF THE LIMIT IS BURNT OUT.
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07-02-2015, 09:07 AM
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If I put a jumper in there what should it do? Make hot water or a noise or what exactly do I check for.
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07-02-2015, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
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If I put a jumper in there what should it do? Make hot water or a noise or what exactly do I check for.
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IF the limit is burned out, it will start heating the water when you plug in the shoreline. It is just a check and should not be used as a fix.
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07-02-2015, 10:17 AM
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OK. Soon as I'm off work I'll put a jumper in then plug it in and see what happens. I'll report back as soon as I do it
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07-02-2015, 04:06 PM
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Pulled it apart. Didn't put a jumper in because the small copper wire that runs from pin to pin in the red wire side was broken is this a hardware store part or camper store thing ?
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07-02-2015, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cbigger87
Pulled it apart. Didn't put a jumper in because the small copper wire that runs from pin to pin in the red wire side was broken is this a hardware store part or camper store thing ?
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Camper store item. While you're in there, you might want to check the other one. I'd replace both with 140° ones to get the water hotter and therefore use less.
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07-02-2015, 08:06 PM
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Yea. I spoke to soon, once I looked at the other it was broken to. Camper store had them. Electric now works. Still no good on the gas side. I'm taking it out this weekend so once I get back ill dig further into that
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