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Old 05-10-2017, 08:54 PM   #21
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You have to remember that they only put 80% in any size tank. So a 20 lbs tank will only have 16 lbs
LOL not where I go. They pump that stuff in until it won't take it anymore. I'm honestly afraid to drive home with them in my trunk if its warm out.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:57 PM   #22
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Our Tractor Supply is $2.49 a gallon, hardware store down the road is $2.09, local LP supplier is $2.19... go figure.

I have a Viking Tank and have had a couple of places refuse to fill it.

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Old 05-10-2017, 09:05 PM   #23
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I was just posting to show the relative prices. The op asked cost of propane.

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Old 05-10-2017, 09:08 PM   #24
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The tank is designed to only hold 80 %. They can let it fill for an hour, when it blows out the little screw on the side it is at 80%. The lpg inside is a gas in it's liquid state. You have to leave the 20% for expansion room.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:11 PM   #25
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You have to remember that they only put 80% in any size tank. So a 20 lbs tank will only have 16 lbs
They only put 80% of a cylinders 'water' capacity into a tank...not 80% of the propane capacity.

It's this misunderstanding that needs to be solved. Amerigas and Blue Rhino both got sued and lost for helping promulgate this misunderstanding somewhat.

The links here will help explain it:

If you will, start at this post in the thread below and read forward"

propane

and the links in this post should help somewhat too:

Propane Tanks in a Fifth Wheel

The more that people understand this, the more times the correct information can be shared. They confuse water capacity vs propane capacity
A propane tank meant for 20 pounds of propane, HOLDS 20 pounds of propane and still has the proper expansion space. A refill facility will usually put the proper 20 pounds into that size cylinder and then the excess over the 20 pounds of liquid propane blows out the overfill bleeder
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My brother's-in-law are big farmers in central Illinois and buy 1000s of gallons of propane in bulk to dry grain. Their cost is around $1 per gallon. So a $2 per gallon price at Tractor Supply is not too bad for small quantities.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:30 PM   #27
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Another good link explaining a cylinders water/liquid capacity:

Propane Bottle and LP Gas Cylinder Filling

and this from the North Carolina Dept. of Agriculture:

http://www.ncagr.gov/standard/LP/LPg...stions.htm#FAQ

FAQ: What constitutes a full grill cylinder?
ANSWER: Grill cylinders are typically referred to as “20 lb.” tanks and hold 20 pounds of propane, a little over 4 ˝ gallons, when full. For safety reasons, a “full” tank is about 80% liquid so there is expansion space if the liquid warms. There is an Overfill Prevention Device (OPD) built into the valve that will limit the fill to a little less than 20 pounds on a warm day. Also, there are cylinders that are larger or smaller than the “20 pounders” and hold appropriately larger or smaller amounts.
Most cylinders for sale at exchange cabinets contain less than 20 pounds of propane. Part of the reason for this is the OPD limitation mentioned above. The other reason is competition. Be aware that an exchanged cylinder probably contains about 15 pounds of propane and is required to show this in the net weight statement the label. These cylinders are filled to about 60%. Also be aware that an exchanged cylinder will not last as long fueling the grill as a container filled to about 80%.
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I always prefer refilling where they charge by the gallon rather than set fee per tank size.
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Old 05-11-2017, 01:15 AM   #29
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$2.19 a gallon in Dayton Nevada.
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If you are in a major city, find the place that supplies the catering trucks (roach coaches). They WILL have the cheapest propane, or they will lose most of their business to someone who is.

Catering truck operators have to "cut it thin".

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