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10-29-2018, 12:43 PM
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This is probably not a new topic but I didn't see it anywhere.
I have a Honda 2000 generator that is parallel capable. My question is can I parallel it with a predator 2000
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10-29-2018, 02:45 PM
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No
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10-29-2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spock123
No
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Now that's the ultimate straightforward answer!!
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10-29-2018, 02:53 PM
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On the pictures of them both , they look like the same generator
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10-29-2018, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indy500
On the pictures of them both , they look like the same generator
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The pictures don't show the electronics ( heart of an inverter generator).
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10-29-2018, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indy500
On the pictures of them both , they look like the same generator
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They definitely are NOT the same generator.
I own a Honda 2000i and have looked at the Predator 2000 in person.
The only things that they share are the color red and basic shape/weight.
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10-29-2018, 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
They definitely are NOT the same generator.
I own a Honda 2000i and have looked at the Predator 2000 in person.
The only things that they share are the color red and basic shape/weight.
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Yes I have the Honda 2000ui , and like it . But if the 2nd one that purchase can be cheaper, like the predator and the cable hook up is the same why wouldn't it work??
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10-29-2018, 10:03 PM
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Hi Indy,
I think it would be a stretch to believe these different manufacturers used identical circuitry that would electrically interact properly.
I personally wouldn't risk frying my $1,000 Honda without some pretty strong evidence.
FWIW.
Rich Phillips
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10-29-2018, 10:35 PM
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The circuitry in the two generators has to be smart enough to match phasing and voltages. You can't pair two non-identical Honda generators together. Here's what Honda says:
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EU2200i and EU2000i Parallel Operation
The EU2200i are only compatible with EU2000i or EU2000i Companion models within a specific serial number range:
EAAJ-2017305 through EAAJ-9999999
EACT-1000001 through EACT-9999999
Connecting an EU2200i with an EU2000i or EU2000i Companion that is not within the compatible serial range above may cause a low voltage output, which can damage tools and appliances powered by the generators. Units outside the compatible serial number range should only be paralleled with another EU2000i.
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10-29-2018, 11:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_S
The circuitry in the two generators has to be smart enough to match phasing and voltages. You can't pair two non-identical Honda generators together. Here's what Honda says:
-- Chuck
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I get what the manual says...manufacturers cannot test everything and don't design it to function that way so they say no to limit liability. I make no claims at understanding this but I was curious as well before and tried looking it up.
Not sure I would do this across brands if I were the OP. This shows 3 different hondas together. Not sure I would try with my generators and camper but it does seem to work.
https://youtu.be/qKam1o_3t_w
https://youtu.be/7xqkoYVbGck
I don't believe everything I read on the interwebs but seems credible. I would have felt much better if some of these guys understood what they had done better but seems like they tried it...
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10-30-2018, 04:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbledan
I get what the manual says...manufacturers cannot test everything and don't design it to function that way so they say no to limit liability. I make no claims at understanding this but I was curious as well before and tried looking it up.
Not sure I would do this across brands if I were the OP. This shows 3 different hondas together. Not sure I would try with my generators and camper but it does seem to work.
https://youtu.be/qKam1o_3t_w
https://youtu.be/7xqkoYVbGck
I don't believe everything I read on the interwebs but seems credible. I would have felt much better if some of these guys understood what they had done better but seems like they tried it...
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Thanks bro, you did some homework. But according to the Honda spec I dont think I will try it . I guess I just need a new Honda just like my other
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10-30-2018, 04:42 AM
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Or you can sell your Honda and buy a pair of Predators with the money.
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10-30-2018, 05:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Or you can sell your Honda and buy a pair of Predators with the money.
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Yes that's a thought, but I have only had the Honda for a year. And if you seen my garage you would know I never get rid of anything LOL
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10-30-2018, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Or you can sell your Honda and buy a pair of Predators with the money.
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Just a thought, the predator sells for 499.00 at HF I could get 2 of them for less than a new Honda. Thanks for kick starting my brain.
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10-30-2018, 05:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indy500
Just a thought, the predator sells for 499.00 at HF I could get 2 of them for less than a new Honda. Thanks for kick starting my brain.
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Actually they often are on sale for $429 with coupon.
They are rated 3db louder than the Honda.
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4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-30-2018, 01:35 PM
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So the answer is no... but it is yours to test out and let everyone else know what the actual facts are. Maybe a dealer can demonstrate how well two generators will parallel.
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10-30-2018, 05:00 PM
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Just do it! Report back and then we won't have to guess.
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10-30-2018, 07:06 PM
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FWIW: Because of patent issues, it is very unlikely that equivalent circuits are used by various manufacturers. If an equivalent circuit was used due to patent expiration or licensing, I would expect the newer user to make that an advertising claim. You can bet that HF would love to be able to advertise "Compatible with Honda".
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10-30-2018, 07:22 PM
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We should get this thread cooking with a thousand post... which is better honda or yamaha? LOL, just kidding.
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11-08-2018, 10:53 PM
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You didn't say why you needed to go from one generator to two generators. If it is to overcome the starting current of an air conditioner, consider installing a Micro-Air EasyStart on the AC unit. As for the lowest price on a Honda generator, Northern Tool has a sale once or twice a year. I was able to pick up a Honda EU2200i for $780 from Northern Tool.
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