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Old 04-23-2018, 06:36 PM   #1
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Tire wear or mouse entry?

Scooting around on my trusty creeper armed with a flashlight, I found some interesting things under our 2017 Salem
RK27SS. First off, lots of dangling wires begging for cable ties. Also, a hole in the underbelly compliments of the mouse I caught inside the trailer. The next thing I found were holes in the underbelly fabric directly above both leading tires. Hope the photo comes through. Does the front tire bounce high enough to rub through the fabric? Or did a mouse sit atop the tire and chew his way in? In either case, the hole is a dandy entry point for Mr. & Mrs. Mouse. I suggest we all scoot around on creepers and inspect our undersides!Click image for larger version

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Old 04-23-2018, 07:49 PM   #2
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Maybe the angle of the pic but it doesn’t look like there is enough clearance between tire and underbelly.
I don’t know the recommended or required clearance but the suspension will move up and down a few inches. Probably more with tandem axle.
I’m sure there are some on here that can tell you what clearance should be. My TT probably had 8-10 inches clearance.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:04 AM   #3
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Ours has about 3.5 to 4 inches of clearance.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:27 AM   #4
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I can't say whether it caused that hole or not, but there's definitely some tire rub going on there.

I'm with the others and maybe it's the angle of the shot, but it looks awful close in there.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:34 AM   #5
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Scooting around on my trusty creeper armed with a flashlight, I found some interesting things under our 2017 Salem
RK27SS. First off, lots of dangling wires begging for cable ties. Also, a hole in the underbelly compliments of the mouse I caught inside the trailer. The next thing I found were holes in the underbelly fabric directly above both leading tires. Hope the photo comes through. Does the front tire bounce high enough to rub through the fabric? Or did a mouse sit atop the tire and chew his way in? In either case, the hole is a dandy entry point for Mr. & Mrs. Mouse. I suggest we all scoot around on creepers and inspect our undersides!
Your tires aren't bouncing that high...and I doubt a mouse chewed that hole.

I'm guessing your springs are flat and the trailer is riding low enough that the trailer is bottoming out on the tires.

Look at your leaf springs...if they look like the top two photos below, then your springs are flat and probably need to be replaced.

I went through this with my previous TT and it was barely two years old and turned out they were already flat when I bought it brand new.

Bottom two photos was when I discovered this happening to all four tires.

If you replace the springs...do them all, and upgrade to a heavier duty spring!
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:49 AM   #6
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Your tires aren't bouncing that high...and I doubt a mouse chewed that hole.

I'm guessing your springs are flat and the trailer is riding low enough that the trailer is bottoming out on the tires.

Look at your leaf springs...if they look like the top two photos below, then your springs are flat and probably need to be replaced.

I went through this with my previous TT and it was barely two years old and turned out they were already flat when I bought it brand new.

Bottom two photos was when I discovered this happening to all four tires.

If you replace the springs...do them all, and upgrade to a heavier duty spring!
Springs are good. Not even close to flat. I've got 2" clearance. I can feel a wireing run that causes the fabric to sag closer to the tire. Click image for larger version

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Old 04-24-2018, 11:50 AM   #7
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I'm covering the holes with Flex Tape.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:52 AM   #8
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Also make sure none of the spring shackles have broken. Happened to us once out in the Black Hills. Someone stopped us as we were rolling thru the campground because they could hear the tire rubbing. Had to fix it at the campground before we could go any further. A $2.00 part had us stranded. After we got home I replaced all the shackles with hd ones and replaced bolts with wet bolts and brass bushings thanks to the knowledgeable people on this forum.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:22 PM   #9
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Springs are good. Not even close to flat. I've got 2" clearance. I can feel a wireing run that causes the fabric to sag closer to the tire. Attachment 169441
2"... well, that's not much.

Any suspension that is doing its job is going to move 2"

And, if you have some wiring under there that is in the area of the tire tread, I'd suggest moving it somehow. It is going to get ruined as the tire continues to make contact.
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When my 2014 Wildwood was just 3 years old, I had to replace my leaf springs. They were flat. I've since found that the "light" trailer empty weights are so close to the loaded weight, they will probably exceed the recommended weights once loaded with your normal gear. And, if dry camping, the extra weight of fresh water, plus grey and black water will definitely overload the trailer. Moral of the story....check your springs regularly and if they begin to sag, install heavier duty leafs.
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