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Old 11-29-2014, 09:34 PM   #1
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Looking for some input on my tow vehicle. I have a 2013 f150 ecoboost 3:31 super Crew with a 1600 lb. Payload. I have a 2015 Coachman Catalina 6600 lb. I am unsure if this truck can handle towing the travel trailer. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:25 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, what model Catalina do you have? It looks like after a quick search, your truck has a towing capacity of anywhere from 9100-9400lbs. This would pull the weight of the trailer most likely fine but, depending on how many people are in your truck, it would have a limited payload.

Let us know how you usually camp in terms of how many people are your truck, etc.

I'm sure your truck would handle the weight but, full tank of gas, full cab of family, firewood, etc in the bed of the truck you'll be close if not over on the payload.

With that being said, it's easy to get a multitude of opinions here and I'm sure that's what you'll get.

I would say, you'll be close on payload but, ok on the weight of the trailer being towed. With that being said, certainly post what model Catalina you have. Also, you'll want to be sure you have a weight distribution hitch with sway control. You'll also want to add on a set of Load Range E tires on the truck if you don't have LT tires on the truck already. This will take away alot of the spongy feeling while towing on P-rated tires.

Good luck and welcome!
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:44 PM   #3
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It's a Coachman Catalina 303qbs. There will be four of us in the truck, about 580 lb. Between all of us. I do have a wd hitch. This is our first camper and I have read a lot of different information about the towing capability of the truck but the payload has me nervous. I added on coil over shocks but I'm not sure if that will make much difference, just did that and have not had a chance to test it out.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:57 PM   #4
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Basically here is what I see.... you have a tow vehicle, you have a trailer. You can hook up and see how it goes or you can hook up, take it to the scales and see where you land. Then it's up to you what to do with your numbers. I always recommend weighing. This allows you to know exactly where you stand on weights. You can also adjust your wdh to the best position based on weights (ideally you want front axle as close to unloaded weight as possible without going heavier).

If you choose to weigh (recommended), go to CAT Scale and find a scale close to you. You will want truck and tt loaded with a full tank of gas plus all passengers, pets, gear, etc you plan to have camping (you can skip food for this purpose). Do 3 passes (you will need something with a long handle to reach the buttons). Pass #1- just tv no tt. Put front axle on scale pad number one and rear axle on scale pad number two. Pass #2- tv plus tt no wdh. Tv as on pass number one, tt has both axles on scale pad number 3. Pass #3- tv plus tt with wdh hooked up.

Now let's look at these numbers. Pass #1 Front axle weight plus rear axle weight = total truck weight. Gross rear axle weight - actual rear axle weight= room available on rear axle for tongue weight post wdh. Truck gcwr - truck total weight= adjusted towing capacity (what YOUR specific truck with occupants can tow). Truck GVWR - truck total weight= available payload (how much weight including tongue weight your truck can handle once occupants accounted for).
Your trailer weights should be under all of these numbers.

Pass #2 take the total weight of truck plus tt and subtract total truck weight from pass #1. This gives you the loaded trailer weight (usually 1000-1500 lbs heavier than dry weight). Take the weights of the truck front and rear axles from pass 2 add them together and subtract that number from total truck weight in pass number 1 to get your loaded tongue weight (should be 13-15% of loaded tt weight).

Pass #3 will tell you if you are within all axle weights and truck weights. Also using pass #1, you can see if your wdh needs adjusting.

If you only have a deposit on the tt and do not own it yet, then get your truck weighed asap to see where you stand. Remember you won't be towing an empty or dry tt. I usually advocate doing calculations from trailer gvwr but if you want an average, most people add 1000-1500 lbs of gear and stuff etc to a tt dry weight. Then figure 13-15% of that weight for your loaded tongue weight. Are you within specs? You can now tell us. Good luck.
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:05 PM   #5
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Looking the tt up, it looks like 6600 lbs is dry weight. You can figure that will likely weigh 7600-8100 lbs loaded. That means an approximate tongue weight of 988-1215 lbs.

1600 lb payload - 580- weight of any gear in bed of truck- weight of added on coil springs (any added component adds weight to truck and does not increase payload). You may well be over on payload.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:22 AM   #6
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Same comments of Asquared, the dry weight of the trailer is 6600lbs, so you will be in the 8000lb range. You figure a rough estimate of 8000lbs loaded and take about 12-13% of that in tongue weight. It's probably 1000lbs just in tongue weight, add in the 580lbs of passengers full tank of gas, anything in the bed of the truck and also your coil overs and you are probably over the payload for sure.

I would make sure your WD hitch is setup properly, don't necessarily go with how the dealer set it up. They can be and are often wrong even though you'd think the opposite. Take it out and see how it feels.

You are probably most certainly over on payload but, under in the trailer weight of the truck's capacity. This is most common that people use up the payload first most of the time not even realizing it.

It also comes down to a few other things and that's for you to decide. A big thing is one's towing abilities. I've been driving large vehicles since I was a teenager and I've very comfortable myself towing a large travel trailer. You may be in the same situation where you feel comfortable towing with your setup.

Others on this forum might feel opposite and stay as far away from someone towing this trailer with your setup as possible.

I'd personally take it to get weighed so you know where you are at for sure. Then at the same time get a feel for how it tows and if you feel comfortable with it, then you'll need to make your own decisions from there.

There are people towing over the payload, some know and some don't know. Some people think they are fine towing it because there dealer said so and don't even bother to look at numbers. Then there are people that think you'll need a 1 ton dually diesel or you shouldn't be towing anything.

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you will likely be over on payload, that's before you account for all the stuff that ends up in the truck bed. Firewood, bikes, grill, etc.
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Everyone is gonna tell you to follow by the book. Personally I think with your set up as long as you are smart about it and use common sense about speed and patience you will be fine. If you are like me and don't need nor want a bigger truck for the amount you tow it doesn't make sense to get one. My truck is my daily driver and I tow about 6-10 times a summer all within 3 hours of my home. My 1/2 ton is at max payload but not over max tow. Truck handles my toy hauler fine and never once have felt out of control or scared.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:40 AM   #9
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Thanks for the input everyone. Definitely gives me the info I need to go forward. Just starting camping so I want to make sure I'm doing everything properly.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:50 AM   #10
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With all due respect, I will point out that some of the helpful information you receive here does not apply to everyone's situation. Not all of us haul bikes, firewood, grills, 4 Rottweilers in our trucks. I read on one RV forum (here?) that people carry an average of 1000 pounds of tools in their trucks when they tow! Er... uh... not true with me.


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