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Old 11-03-2014, 10:05 PM   #21
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And 1/2 T tires locked up sliding on pavement won't slide much farther than 3/4 T tires locked up and sliding on pavement. What happens if you have a 1T Dually and the trailer brakes go out and the rear wheels fall of the truck at the same time? Holy smoke, gimme a break!
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Old 11-03-2014, 10:08 PM   #22
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Like having your trailer plug come loose when you hit a stop light. After you FINAILLY get it to a stop, you go into your RV to change your Fruit of the Looms.
My plug locks in the bed connector. I push and check. It shouldn't come out so long as the lid or spring isn't broken, My truck will tell me if disconnected.
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It is obvious this thread does not apply as i tow with a Ford....
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Old 11-03-2014, 10:36 PM   #24
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To those that are worried about stopping with a 1/2 ton, you do realize that the trailer is supposed to be set up to stop using it's own brakes, 1/2, 3/4, 1 ton it does not matter the trailer should be doing its own braking.

Remind me to not drive in front of you. There is a ton of difference between the 1/2 ton brakes and a 3/4 ton.
Trailer brakes are simple systems known to fail on occasion. The truck is the Main stopping force.
Take it from me been a well respected service tech for almost 25 years.


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Old 11-03-2014, 10:54 PM   #25
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Fourn3833: I think your thread got a bit hijacked. Anyway, I just looked at the 2011 Silverado Owners Manual.

For a 4.8L, Crew Cab, short bed (you don't say what rear end or 2WD/4WD):

2WD (pg 9-92)
3:23 - 4700 lbs
3:73 - 6700 lbs

4WD (pg 9-95)
3:42 - 5500 lbs

He should plop his Owner's Manual in front of the salesman, point to these numbers, and see what he has to say.
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FWIW: between downshifting and my exhaust brake, I can roll off an interstate exit ramp without touching my brake pedal (or activating the trailer brakes) until the very last section of the stop, right at the SS. Try that with a half ton.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:03 AM   #27
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Our 829FKSS Flagstaff weighs in as 6213lbs with factory options installed. We carry no water in any tanks except water heater and we travel light. Levelers are plastic, no planks, resin chairs in back of truck, no firewood, minimal food and bottled water, rhino sewer system etc. and no kids. I am guessing that we are at about 7500 lbs including 2 passengers. My 1/2 ton tows and stops just fine. Towing is not rocket science. You need to match the truck to the tt you are towing. Yes, the brakes can fail, plugs can come out if not secured properly, and yes, you can be towing down the road and a blue block if poop ice can fall out of the sky from a plane and kill you. 1/2 ton trucks can and do tow very well if you do not exceed their capability. They say my truck can tow up to 11,300 lbs. Would I try? absolutely not. Would I try to tow something around 8500? Yes, if needed, but I like to stay around 7500 lbs.. If you want to tow a behemoth trailer or 5'er, you absolutely need a 3/4 or one ton truck. If you are down around 7500 or 8000 lbs, it very doable with a properly equipped 1/2 ton. This comes from 45 years of towing all kinds of rv and commercial trailers and managing a 2000 vehicle fleet.
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FWIW: between downshifting and my exhaust brake, I can roll off an interstate exit ramp without touching my brake pedal (or activating the trailer brakes) until the very last section of the stop, right at the SS. Try that with a half ton.
Wow, I'm impressed. I can do the same (other than no exh. brake) in my weak kneed 1/2T Silverado with the gear shift also.
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Wow, I'm impressed. I can do the same (other than no exh. brake) in my weak kneed 1/2T Silverado with the gear shift also.
I know OC is pulling close to 9000 lbs if not over with his 1/2 ton, He built race cars I'm with him on this one.....
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And 1/2 T tires locked up sliding on pavement won't slide much farther than 3/4 T tires locked up and sliding on pavement. What happens if you have a 1T Dually and the trailer brakes go out and the rear wheels fall of the truck at the same time? Holy smoke, gimme a break!
OC, you and Mark Twain know you can't win this argument here. Even if you do, there seems to be no prize. To some, every 1/2 is exactly like every other 1/2 ton... and some are sharing their experience from 25 years ago. When I worked on Space Shuttle's Flight Computer Operating System software, the discussions of redundant systems and fail-safe software operation would continue forever - until I stopped the discussion by asking "... and what happens if a hand grenade blows up in an astronaut's pocket?" As I've said before, many here recommend that others buy a Caterpillar D9 bulldozer tractor to tow a grocery cart that's more than half full of cereal.
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