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03-20-2015, 11:53 AM
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Travelling with an extra propane tank
I'd like to take an extra 20# (full) propane tank with us when camping. Both for grilling and to have extra capacity with us. When travelling with a full propane tank, would it be best to secure it in the bed of the truck, or in the hold (basement?) of the TT?
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03-20-2015, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LANShark42
I'd like to take an extra 20# (full) propane tank with us when camping. Both for grilling and to have extra capacity with us. When travelling with a full propane tank, would it be best to secure it in the bed of the truck, or in the hold (basement?) of the TT?
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Old milk crate.
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03-20-2015, 12:08 PM
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Old milk crate sitting in the bed of the truck for me. Not the basement the trailer, that is living space and if it leaks trouble would ensue.
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03-20-2015, 12:12 PM
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Old milk crate here too. Which got me thinking about how much explosive things i haul around when camping. Between the fuel cans, the extra propane and the ammo, i should have a freakin hazmat sign on the bed of my truck, lolol.
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03-20-2015, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by B and B
Old milk crate sitting in the bed of the truck for me. Not the basement the trailer, that is living space and if it leaks trouble would ensue.
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Are you forgetting the twin 30# cylinders and 8' of rubber hose right under the bedroom?
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03-20-2015, 12:16 PM
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My pickup has a soft tonneau cover. Would that make it too hot to safely carry a full tank back there in summer?
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03-20-2015, 12:18 PM
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milk crate, were ever you have the room just have FUN
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03-20-2015, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
Are you forgetting the twin 30# cylinders and 8' of rubber hose right under the bedroom?
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That would be nice. But unfortunately, I have twin 20# tanks in that location. 30# tanks are $60+ each and a new cover would be another $30+. And I already have several spare 20# tanks.
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03-20-2015, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LANShark42
That would be nice. But unfortunately, I have twin 20# tanks in that location. 30# tanks are $60+ each and a new cover would be another $30+. And I already have several spare 20# tanks.
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Reply was directed @ B and B with his 5th wheel.
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03-20-2015, 12:40 PM
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Sorry, OC. I should learn to read better! :-)
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03-20-2015, 12:45 PM
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My spare 20# is carried in the basement surrounded by other things. No room for it to tip over.
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03-20-2015, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
Are you forgetting the twin 30# cylinders and 8' of rubber hose right under the bedroom?
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I know and but they are in a non combustable? lined cabinet with no floor to allow propane to fall out from should a leak occur... that is what i have been told
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03-20-2015, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S1LV3R4D0
Old milk crate here too. Which got me thinking about how much explosive things i haul around when camping. Between the fuel cans, the extra propane and the ammo, i should have a freakin hazmat sign on the bed of my truck, lolol.
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Just get you 40-hour OSHA HAZWOPER with 8-hour annual refreshers, your DOT HMR awareness, and first aid/CPR and you're set!
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03-20-2015, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by B and B
I know and but they are in a non combustable? lined cabinet with no floor to allow propane to fall out from should a leak occur... that is what i have been told
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Have a good look, the floor is metal, but it is open to the belly which will leak gas into the entire belly plus the 8' of rubber hose that runs across the front, etc. Just don't think it would be any more dangerous than carrying the propane cylinders for lantern, grills, etc. If one of those leak, there will be a major problem anyway if somehow they were ignited.
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03-20-2015, 01:09 PM
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I haul a 20lb'er in my truck bed all the time in a plastic milk crate. soft tonneau cover, never had any issue. last year for deer camp since we were dry camping I put a 40lb'er in my big cooler in the bed of my truck and hauled it that way, no issues either
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03-20-2015, 01:10 PM
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Milk crate in the basement.
My understanding is propane will 'pocket' and not necessarily dissipate. Even with an open compartment in your coach, TT, 5th wheel, pop up and so on if you have an ignition of some sort......you 'will' have a major major problem most likely too soon to worry about.
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03-20-2015, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CSMRetired
Milk crate in the basement.
My understanding is propane will 'pocket' and not necessarily dissipate. Even with an open compartment in your coach, TT, 5th wheel, pop up and so on if you have an ignition of some sort......you 'will' have a major major problem most likely too soon to worry about.
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Agree with CSCRetired 100%.
BTW, never heard of propane pocketing, anytime I smelled a leak, it went everywhere, but I suppose it could pocket.
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03-20-2015, 01:15 PM
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LMAO ill just wing it
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03-20-2015, 01:24 PM
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It would appear from reading here that a lot of dairies are missing their plastic milk crates.
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03-20-2015, 01:25 PM
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[QUOTE=OldCoot;811614]Agree with CSCRetired 100%.
BTW, never heard of propane pocketing, anytime I smelled a leak, it went everywhere, but I suppose it could pocket.[/QUOTE
so if you do have an open bottom, it will dissipate
I did fail to say that when we arrive at a CG, the first thing I do is take the propane bottle out of the basement and leave the door open while I am setting up......just in case
Propane Vapor
Propane becomes a vapor at temperatures above -44°F. Similar to water when it boils and gives off steam, propane gives off vapor when it boils. One may refer to propane vapor as "flammable steam" for simplicity. However, for the propane vapor to be ignited, there must be the right mix of air and vapor. Propane vapor is heavier than air and will sink to and collect in the lowest point it can find. If propane is vented to the outside air, it will quickly dissipate with the slightest movement of air. Conversely, if propane is vented into an air tight structure with no air movement, the propane vapor will collect on the floor and rise vertically if more propane is vented into the structure.
This is extremely important to know because if there is a propane leak in a house or building, the propane vapor will seek the lowest possible point where it will collect. Keep in mind that one gallon of propane will produce over 36 cubic feet of vapor and this vapor will settle in the lowest possible place. If the propane vapor level continues to rise, it may ignite if finds a source of ignition. The weight of propane vapor being heavier than that of air is a characteristic of propane gas that needs to be understood by all LP Gas users, not just propane companies and their employees.
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