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Old 02-03-2015, 02:25 PM   #1
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Upgrading from TT to Toy Hauler - things to consider?

Two years ago we bought a Rockwood Mini Lite 2306. We both work full time, have 3 kids (12, 11, and 9), and two dogs. For being as busy as we are, we've put a lot of nights on it, and do love it.

But we did not expect the kids to grow so fast. I had no idea that the 12 year old would be bigger than me at this age. And while he has a tent and likes to camp outside, sometimes that's not feasible.

Prior to the TT, we upgraded from tent to tent to popup, then to the TT. We bought that particular model because our TV could haul it, and we didn't want to break the bank and upgrade both. I told hubby I'm kind of tired of upgrading. So, go big or go home. I want this to be IT. Final. To camp properly, we need our stuff.. kayaks and bikes and my scooter and his new Harley.

I feel like we've considered all the options. We've sat in dozens of models. With the kids. We've camped enough to know the basic necessities. I know what I want for comfort and hubby knows how to operate all the mechanic stuff. He loves the idea of hydraulic levelers. All those grand features our TT doesn't have.

But what else should we consider when it comes to options and construction? At the RV show, the sales guys make a big deal about their hitch and turning radius and shape of the front end.

How much of that needs to be taken into consideration vs. finding a floor plan that works for our family?
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:04 PM   #2
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We are newbies but I would think that if you are not happy with the floor plan then all else is mute. Sorry, that is my opinion and probably not worth much.
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:38 PM   #3
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DKB74,
It all becomes an idea of , how much comfort. We had a TH for 4 years and loved it. It was an XLR 29MBV. It had a v-nose and pulled very well at 10,000 lbs. We pulled it with F250 diesel. averaged around 11 mpg(diesel). Traded up for something to retire in. One of my have to things was 6 point level system. It was one of my best decisions. Camp is now set-up in 20 minutes and no rocking or movement! One thing that I had to upgrade in the TH was, the bed. It had a murphy bed and it got changed out for an electric set of two ( one on bottom and one on top). Are you considering a fiver?

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Yes, we are. We have a model in mind, but it is not a Forest River.
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:40 PM   #5
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Yes, we are. We have a model in mind, but it is not a Forest River.

Thats OK. A lot of people here have owned other brands and will probably have some insight. Gotta do what works best for your family, FR or not


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My wife and I just went through this process. For our consideration, floor plan was the deciding factor. We wanted to be able to use the garage as a living area when the trike is out. Why have 10' of area to pull around if you can't use it? We ended up with a Work and Play 30WRS. We love it. Our maiden voyage has been 3 weeks so far, from Michigan to California. It does everything we wanted, plus some nice amenities.


One thing to be careful of is your tow vehicle ratings. For us, the hitch weight was the one to watch, but remember toy haulers are heavier and can put your TV at its max, if you're not careful.
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We're switching from a Class A to a TH 5th. The toy bay will serve as a play room for our two dogs, space for the washer/dryer, office, and extra party area. We were looking at the 305V12 and they stopped making that. Now we've zeroed in on the 300X12. We really want the rails on the ramp to give us even more space.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:42 PM   #8
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Two years ago we bought a Rockwood Mini Lite 2306. We both work full time, have 3 kids (12, 11, and 9), and two dogs. For being as busy as we are, we've put a lot of nights on it, and do love it.

But we did not expect the kids to grow so fast. I had no idea that the 12 year old would be bigger than me at this age. And while he has a tent and likes to camp outside, sometimes that's not feasible.

Prior to the TT, we upgraded from tent to tent to popup, then to the TT. We bought that particular model because our TV could haul it, and we didn't want to break the bank and upgrade both. I told hubby I'm kind of tired of upgrading. So, go big or go home. I want this to be IT. Final. To camp properly, we need our stuff.. kayaks and bikes and my scooter and his new Harley.

I feel like we've considered all the options. We've sat in dozens of models. With the kids. We've camped enough to know the basic necessities. I know what I want for comfort and hubby knows how to operate all the mechanic stuff. He loves the idea of hydraulic levelers. All those grand features our TT doesn't have.

But what else should we consider when it comes to options and construction? At the RV show, the sales guys make a big deal about their hitch and turning radius and shape of the front end.

How much of that needs to be taken into consideration vs. finding a floor plan that works for our family?
I have been same route as you. Now have Fifth wheel toyhauler. You didn't say what tow vehicle and whether you were staying with the TT or going Fifthwheel. Most of the larger Toy Haulers will have options for electric queen size let down beds in the garage which is what we have. Counting the front bed ours has 3 full size queen beds and the dinette makes into near queen size. I have a 12 ft garage and haul 2 full dresser Harleys in it. It is full and makes the tongue weight little light. It is fifthwheel with 1 super slide. From my research the fifthwheels are going to be about 36 to 40 feet and weigh 12000 up. This requires and works much better with a 3/4 ton Diesel and 0ne ton dually makes me feel even better. You can pull them with a gas burner, but mileage will be terrible and won't like the mountains much.
As for the front cap if speaking about FW it is necessary for cab clearance when turning and helps on aerodynamics. If referring to the TT it is a aerodynamics and both are somewhat cosmetic. They are the first thing you see when meeting one on road, so got to look good. For all the stuff you are wanting to haul the 14 foot garage would be a must. If in TT there are some open designs like the Work and Play that would be worth looking at. The weight of the fifthwheels needs to be prime concern. It takes big trucks to pull them as the tow weight can easily be in the 15000 lbs category and then some. Some salesmen will have you pulling a fifthwheel with a 1/2 ton pickup, so do your research. I also wouldn't care to pull a 35 foot toyhauler TT with anything less than 3/4 ton. Your statement of go big or go home makes more sense than you may think. It does apply more to the tow vehicle than the RV. Never saw a truck too big for the trailer, but have seen many trailers too big for truck. Good luck and look in camp grounds as to what people are pulling.
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We have. 2011 41 ft XLR fifth wheel. My 1st suggestion is to make sure you have a truck capable of towing a big TH. I have a Ford F-450 DRE TD. It does the trick. secondly, don't scrimp on the hitch and make sure you buy a bed saver. I dropped my.TH on the bed of the truck before I knew there was anything called a bed saver. Third, when towing make sure you make really wide turns. I ran mine in the ditch right in front of my house by not swinging wide enough and later scrapped a road sign in a camp ground. A 41 ft TH and the tow vehicle makes the rig as long as a semi. With experience I've gotten better, but at a price. Many RV parks are not equipped to handle big rigs, even some that advertise otherwise. Driving through narrow park roads and turning onto a site can be harrowing. If you are in NC try Ocean Breeze RV Park and Campground near Holden Beach. If in Pigeon Forge, Tenn. try River Plantation near Sievereville. Both are good at handling big rigs.
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Floor plan must match your needs for you to love it. With all the experience you have camping, you know how you camp. Do your homework, look at everything on line, then go to some RV shows and walk through them. Go back after that and look again. Narrow it down, then go to the dealers who sell your top 3. Touch everything in it. You'll know when you see it. I did. Finally, shop until you get a deal that no one can beat. Take your time. My toy hauler is not huge, but it's only for two of us. I like it more every time I use it.
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