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Old 01-15-2014, 12:30 PM   #41
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Huh, There are a LOT of (40foot tri axle 5th wheels) on the seasonal also. I think they also use them as (Travel Units)! Youroo!!
Well, that's the point. That big for traveling, more stable with a fiver.
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Ya! When you get that big, I would think a fiver a must. 35'TT is a perfect candidate for a seasonal/permanent spot.

Uhhh, I hate to burst all of the RV-CSI Bubbles, these rigs here ply our hiways and byways @70 MPH all day long around here, some of them 50' long 16' wide being pulled on, of all things, a tongue pull hitch!! NO WD either and the WB Wheel Base of the TV is shorter than most F-250's, trailer weighs a lot more than TV as well yet we do not see the roadways littered with the carcasses of modular homes. I will wager it is due mostly to the fact that the drivers are experienced, the equipment is very robust and the operator knows what he is doing when it comes to making sure it is set up correctly. Kind of wrecks the trailer length to TV length formula...







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Uhhh, I hate to burst all of the RV-CSI Bubbles, these rigs here ply our hiways and byways @70 MPH all day long around here, some of them 50' long 16' wide being pulled on, of all things, a tongue pull hitch!! NO WD either and the WB Wheel Base of the TV is shorter than most F-250's, trailer weighs a lot more than TV as well yet we do not see the roadways littered with the carcasses of modular homes. I will wager it is due mostly to the fact that the drivers are experienced, the equipment is very robust and the operator knows what he is doing when it comes to making sure it is set up correctly. Kind of wrecks the trailer length to TV length formula...






Actually, I think many mobile homes, as well call them, are 80' in length. I don't really have any idea how much they weigh- maybe someone can chime in on that. I'd venture that a 16x80 mobile home would weigh north of 40,000 pounds. Just for fun, I'll also guess that one of the trucks towing it weighs 20,000. If I'm close on those numbers, that would be like me pulling a 14K travel trailer with my F150. I think you hit the nail on the head with the "driver experience" and "he knows what he's doing" statements.
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There's a little bit of difference between a custom trailer toter and a grocery getter pickup;that a lot of folks don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am with dustman_stx on thinking the insurance will pay even if there was driver error or incorrect hookup. Insurance pays for our mistakes just as much as it pays for other things. That is why we have insurance. Humans make mistakes.
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Unless we know all the details we are only guessing what happened. Here is a picture of a professional driver that ended up on his side. I know what happened but can you guess.
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Uhhh, I hate to burst all of the RV-CSI Bubbles, these rigs here ply our hiways and byways @70 MPH all day long around here, some of them 50' long 16' wide being pulled on, of all things, a tongue pull hitch!! NO WD either and the WB Wheel Base of the TV is shorter than most F-250's, trailer weighs a lot more than TV as well yet we do not see the roadways littered with the carcasses of modular homes. I will wager it is due mostly to the fact that the drivers are experienced, the equipment is very robust and the operator knows what he is doing when it comes to making sure it is set up correctly. Kind of wrecks the trailer length to TV length formula...







Saw one of these turn over on I95 near Augusta Me, a few years ago. It happens.
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There's a little bit of difference between a custom trailer toter and a grocery getter pickup;that a lot of folks don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like what? And if you think newer 1/2 tons are "grocery getters" you need to do a little research. They are much more capable than they were even 10 years ago.
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Like what? And if you think newer 1/2 tons are "grocery getters" you need to do a little research. They are much more capable than they were even 10 years ago.

Light duty pickup truck suspensions are designed first and foremost for ride quality. They spend 90 or so percent of their lives doing non-hauling duty like commuting, road trips, and grocery getting. There's a reason you cant find a solid axle half-ton truck any more. Or even leaf springs. They are (erroneously IMHO) given inflated towing figures simply as a marketing tool, assuming ideal conditions. Tow #10,500 with a new F-150 and lose your trailer brakes. Let me know how that works out for you. with luck, you will have just enough margin of safety left to be able to select what you crash into.

Commercial heavy duty trucks are engineered from the get-go with towing/hauling capacity as the most important consideration. ride quality is way down the list. That's why a 20K tractor can gross out at 80k loaded with a modicum of safety. but you know what, they still wreck all the time.

I'm sorry, but my old leaf spring, solid axle 1977 Chevy K10 (designed when most truck were used for work, not commuting) would be a hell of a lot safer towing at its rated rated capacity of 8k than a new F-150 would be at its rated capacity of 10,500. Hell, it'd still be safer than the f150 at 8,000 pounds.

I'm not saying that there aint people towing 10k with a half-ton truck with no issues. I'm sure it happens all the time. I'm just saying that when it goes bad, the margin of safety just aint there anymore and it goes really bad. Hence the pictures at the start of this post.

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Cowracer, if you look at all the pictures of the OP's post and the enlargements, you will see the pins were not in the torsion bars which is what caused the accident. Had nothing to do the truck. It could of been a 3/4 or 1 T and the results of the hitch bars not being installed properly would of been the same.
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