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Old 05-28-2015, 08:51 AM   #11
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Dealer was Bucars in Calgary. He was trying to get me in to an A class so I was unsure if he was telling me the truth or not but I guess so...
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:00 AM   #12
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Ah, so he is trying to get you OUT of someone elses unit and INTO one of his. Motive plays a lot into story.

They only carry Jayco, so really have no floor plans that compete with the 3051.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:13 AM   #13
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I just checked (2) on the line. UVW was 12,661 and 12,784. Average being 12,722.5

So 14,500 - 12773 = 1727 for people, water, cargo. (Full fuel is included in the UVW total)

300 per person with cargo x 5 people as you say = 1500
1/2 tank of fresh = 25x8lbs = 200
Total of 1700 lbs if you take all 5 people. You still have room for the family pet or 2 cats.

Is it tight? Sure, but with a Class C you get Driver/Passenger door, entry door and exit window. (4) bed locations and a vehicle that everyone is comfortable driving.

I'll be the unbiased one and say that a Class A can also be a good choice...if you find a floor plan you love. But to say you have to have a Class A instead of a Class C is sort of crazy.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:06 AM   #14
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So the end story is I only have 1700lbs for fuel, water, people and cargo.... that makes me wonder if its even safe enough to tow anything behind it...
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So the end story is I only have 1700lbs for fuel, water, people and cargo.... that makes me wonder if its even safe enough to tow anything behind it...

As bclemens mentioned- fuel is already accounted for.

Why wouldn't it be safe??? If you're within specs- have at it.
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towing is a separate number.
GVWR (14,500 lbs) is the total weight of the vehicle
GCWR (22,000 lbs) is the total weight of vehicle and tow vehicle (Combined).

So, my question to them would be, what does the Class A tow? Gas Class A's normally only tow 5,000 lbs.

Our Class C on an E450 is rated to tow 7,500 lbs.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:22 PM   #17
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Ohhhh I missed the "gas included", thanx that helps a lot.

The reason I mentioned the towing is because if the MH is maxed out in weight already how is it supposed to stop or handle decently while towing?? Doesn't really matter since I won't be towing but I just assumed if the MH is maxed in weight a 4000lb vehicle behind it would make it very dangerous. But I've never owned a MH or towed a 4000lb vehicle so im just going on what I assumed. Thanks for your help guys!
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So the total is 2100lbs for water, cargo, people and pets. Incase anybody else wants to know.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:30 PM   #19
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It seems to me that yes, the salesperson was wrong in your case, but I think it's interesting that he even discussed load carrying at all with you! I've shopped lots of trailers over the years and YOU have to be more educated than many of the salespeople in what you're looking for. I've been told I could tow this or that knowing the thing is too heavy to comfortably tow empty, let alone loaded for a trip.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:17 PM   #20
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Ya that's why im doing my reseach now and not driving down the highway in a class A. The salesman was pushing that A class hard too lol.
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