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Old 04-13-2013, 08:02 PM   #21
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I know in IN you will get fined by the DNR if you bring firewood into a state park that doesn't meet their criteria.

You can bring firewood into a state park, reservoir, state forest or state fish and wildlife area if
  • It is kiln-dried scrap lumber.
  • It is from your home or other location in Indiana and has the bark removed. (Ideally, Ĺ inch of sapwood beneath the bark will also be removed.)
  • It is purchased from a department store, grocery store, gas station, etc. and bears a USDA compliance stamp.
  • It is purchased from a local firewood vendor outside the property and has a state compliance stamp with it.
  • It is purchased from the property campstore or on-site firewood vendor and has a state compliance stamp.
Also, it's illegal to burn downed wood in IN and OH. It's a hefty fine.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:19 PM   #22
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Look for firewood on some of the backroads near your campground.

I just spent the weekend at Spring Gulch, PA and an Amish house was selling a half pickup truck load for $25. I could name 2 private farms in Gettysburg, PA to get firewood. I don't like to haul all the extra weight from my house to the campsite.
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Once we may have had some in the truck when camping in KY, a ranger did see it, and told me to not unload it on to the ground. But if it went straight from trk to fire,we were ok.
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:45 PM   #23
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I'm no expert, but I doubt the ash borer can survive being in a campfire. I've never tried hauling wood out of state, but I do burn the hell out of what I bring camping.
I assume you were joking; however I think it's worth clarifying for anybody reading this forum for advice.

While insects and disease will be distroyed by the heat of the fire, the risk lies in the insect or disease speading before the wood is burned. It could be the time you arrive at the campsite to the time you burn the last piece of wood is enough for an insect to wander off. It could also be as a result of splitting wood that pieces of bark fall off or the insect gets shaken out of it's burrow.

As much as I like paying as little as possible for anything, and that I also take some efforts to try to save money on firewood; the rules about transporting firewood exist for a reason. And to echo what others have said, please don't burn anything with staples or nails that could pose a hazzard for other campers.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:38 PM   #24
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I am also somewhat confused by these rules.

I live in Southern Ontario and all of the camp fire wood that you buy in the provincial parks comes for the Province of Quebec, as indicated on the packaging.

Also I notice a number of tarps on the back of pickups are hiding firewood

Link. http://www.ontarioparks.com/english/emerald_ash.html
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:07 AM   #25
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As mentioned, scrap lumber is a good source or if you don't want to buy the campground's stuff and aren't allowed to bring it in pick up a couple of those 12 hour pressed logs you can buy in the hardware stores.

While not the same as burning crackling wood, it will give you a nice fire.

Or, throw one of the pressed logs in the pit, buy a small bundle of campfire wood and occasionally throw a piece in to give the cracking and real wood smoke smell....
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:37 AM   #26
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Has anyone used Wood Bricks or have an opinion on them (note- I like the idea and really would prefer if your opinions could match MY opinions )?

US Recycled Wood Products - wood brick info

They have a "camp" wood version:
Camp Wood Brick

And, it appears that they're food safe:
Chicago Brick Oven uses them

Other than aesthetics and possibly price, I'm having a hard-time seeing the downside to them.

Thoughts? Opinions (preferably those that match mine )? Witty commentary?
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I have found the best practice to be to call the local forestry office where I will be camping to get the rules for that area. Even then that hasnít produced consistent answers. Iíve had seasonal workers/interns ask me why I want to gather down and dead wood when I can just purchase it in the campground! Lets seeÖ$50 - $100 a weekend is why. Checking websites for info also works but sometimes the information is not easily found and very clear. When I do get in contact with the right people they generally have been very helpful and thankful that I am pursuing the information. Last year a DNR worker stopped me from cutting up some wood to use in a State Forest campground. He believed that what I was doing was in violation of the rules. I knew I was ok. I contacted the forestry office chief for that area later and he told me that he would let his people know of the rules. That DNR worker was applying rules for a State Park to a State Forest. I know its a hassle and a pain but putting in some time and finding the right people can make dealing with these rules a lot easier.

I am coming to grips with all the firewood rules and they make me miss the old days when beetles sang and bugs were a menace to my skin rather than trees!
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:41 PM   #28
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Has anyone used Wood Bricks or have an opinion on them (note- I like the idea and really would prefer if your opinions could match MY opinions )?

US Recycled Wood Products - wood brick info

They have a "camp" wood version:
Camp Wood Brick

And, it appears that they're food safe:
Chicago Brick Oven uses them

Other than aesthetics and possibly price, I'm having a hard-time seeing the downside to them.

Thoughts? Opinions (preferably those that match mine )? Witty commentary?

I think those are a great idea! As much sawdust as I make in the shop I would like to make my own if I could! I do save my scraps and take them with me camping.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:45 PM   #29
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Fire in a Can

I am a wood guy, even just got an 11ton splitter(Iím getting to old) and living the city is tough. I found a source that trims trees and removes down trees and when the wood is good and accessible he calls me.
But I am getting tired of hauling wood so I bought a Fire-in-a-Can and 50ft of hose. This is very quick and clean but it doesnít pop/crackle, it doesnít smell nice(doesnít smell bad either) and it doesnít radiate heat(note the pic, everyone has on a jacket). It does cook marshmallows fairly well, it has a nice flickering flame and it still gathers the family.
I carry a great buck-saw, a hatchet and an ax so if I can find wood, Iíll get it. Here in Cal. State parks do not want you to scavenge wood. I still carry wood on short trips; I love the full fire effect: smell, sound, heat, poking at it, even the work involved.
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That's part of my issue with these woodblocks- I've got a soft spot in my heart for wood fires.
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