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Old 04-18-2013, 10:49 PM   #41
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I won't tar and/or feather you. :-) Just not sure I'm ready to make that jump just yet. I bought a beautiful grill for cooking over the fire that I haven't gotten to use yet.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:56 PM   #42
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Our area is now infected with the Ash borer. They were found beside a truck stop. Most likely the Ash borer came off a truck while it was stopped. The problem is that a lot of the hard wood for sale in our area is ash. Some people do not burn all of their wood and take the remaining wood home. If you do have ash in the pile and the borer is present in your wood you have now infected another area. Our CG is only 2 miles from the infected area. The majority of the trees in the CG are Ash. If you want a "real" fire you can purchase fire logs that will burn 3 to 4 hours and some even have the snap of "real" wood. A box of 6 will cost about $15. We have a propane fire pit and people walking past think it is a real fire. the advantage with propane is that you can have a fire during a fire ban and you are not having to find firewood. The area we are in have a ban of importing and exporting fire wood. You would be surprised at the extent people will go to in order to hide their firewood. Nature is too fragile to have a person bring an invasive species into an area just because they want to have a "real" fire. If we do not change our ways then in a few years many of the places we like to camp at will be gone.
I hope the Ash Borer doesn't make it to your mostly Ash CG. From the link I posted with FAQs, the Emarald Ash Borer can fly up to 1/2 mile.
I think it spreads very rapidly from what I've seen in MI.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:57 PM   #43
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I won't tar and/or feather you. :-) Just not sure I'm ready to make that jump just yet. I bought a beautiful grill for cooking over the fire that I haven't gotten to use yet.
That's a bummer to have that type of grill and not able to use it.. One thing about Goshen, no fire pits, so no fire, Many many camp grounds are going this way. The propane fire pit can be used in places like that. It takes up very little space and would come in handy on a cool evening with kids that like s'mores.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:54 PM   #44
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The ash borer does indeed only kill ash. I understand the desire to want to save the ash. Here in Minneapolis about 20% of the trees are ash and at risk. Losing all those trees in a short time would definitely change the landscape significantly. But the process of trying to save the ash cant help but feel like we are fighting nature. The ash borer is as much a part of nature as is the ash itself. Disease and insects have come and gone thru all of history. Nature is pretty resilient. With or without the presence of mankind nature will survive this latest threat. The ash...might not. Back in the 70's and 80's this area was devastated by dutch elm disease. This area survived that and will survive this too. I do see the merits in reducing or slowing its spread by not moving firewood also. The ash borer on its own can travel a few miles a year where in the back of a pickup it can go 50, 100, 200 miles in a couple of hours. No reason to spread things faster than they would on their own. Totally reasonable.

As to the issue of finding wood to burn. We stay at campgrounds where we are able to gather dead and down wood to burn. That typically means forest camping (National and State). We stopped camping in State Parks as we must pay for firewood and have strict rules against gathering anything to burn. I have never stayed in privates and am wondering what people do for fires there. I cant imagine setting up a propane fireplace. I'm just not feeling it. I might just as rather put on the old yule log on the television. Bah.
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:20 AM   #45
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I live in S.C. and there are signs all over the place about bringing in wood from other states. They even put warning blurbs on Reserve America when you make your reservations, so I don't do it. If I can't find dead wood laying around, I'm stuck, like everybody else, buying it.

I'm camping right now and the guy next to me has Virginia plates on his truck and a load of firewood in the bed of his truck. I feel this issue of the Ash Wood Borer should be treated like good campground etiquette. If the State doesn't want you to bring in wood there is a good reason for it and we, as good responsible campers, should abide by the rules.
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I have no problem buying wood from campground store but it seems as though when the ban came into effect the price at the campgrounds shot way up. Also been many times we bought wood and then it was to wet so we had to get a decent fire going before we could get it to burn
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I live in S.C. and there are signs all over the place about bringing in wood from other states. They even put warning blurbs on Reserve America when you make your reservations, so I don't do it. If I can't find dead wood laying around, I'm stuck, like everybody else, buying it.

I'm camping right now and the guy next to me has Virginia plates on his truck and a load of firewood in the bed of his truck. I feel this issue of the Ash Wood Borer should be treated like good campground etiquette. If the State doesn't want you to bring in wood there is a good reason for it and we, as good responsible campers, should abide by the rules.
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Just because he has VA plates doesn't mean anything. I have TN plates and live in DE. He could have bought the wood down the road. Assuming does nothing.

On the same note, I buy wood locally. 1 it helps stop the spread of the bug. 2 it supports the local economy.
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Just because he has VA plates doesn't mean anything. I have TN plates and live in DE. He could have bought the wood down the road. Assuming does nothing.

On the same note, I buy wood locally. 1 it helps stop the spread of the bug. 2 it supports the local economy.
I'm sorry if I offended you.
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No offense taken. Just another perspective.
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I have no problem buying wood from campground store but it seems as though when the ban came into effect the price at the campgrounds shot way up. Also been many times we bought wood and then it was to wet so we had to get a decent fire going before we could get it to burn
I hate CG store wood. It is overpriced, usually crummy. If they want us to buy CG wood, then get some serious wood in large enough quantifies at a decent market price.
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