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Old 01-23-2016, 11:36 AM   #11
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We have looked at quiet a few FL and the thing we do not like is how small the kitchen area is. Usually only 2 chairs to eat at and if you find one that has the center island and the table extends out to accommodate 4 dining chairs you cannot get from the living room back to the bathroom because the table is extended to the side of the island....

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Old 01-23-2016, 11:42 AM   #12
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I've posted this before but for whatever it's worth. I have over 40 years in the RV Business and can tell you that the front living room 5th wheel is a phenomenon that comes around every 5 years, last for a year and disappears from whence it came. It depends on a whole new generation of rvers to make it work. Once people realize the down sides like constantly going up and down stairs, tongue weight, minimized storage etc.. they usually opt out of purchasing. If by chance they do purchase they regret it shortly and what happens next is they want to trade but nobody wants their trade so they take a beating. This is the reason you don't see many dealers stocking this unit and if they do they buy a few and then back off. Just my humble opinion.

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Old 01-23-2016, 11:43 AM   #13
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... I could not get over the heavier pin weight of them.
I stopped looking at them due to this issue.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:09 PM   #14
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I have the Columbus 370FL and love it. The recliner seats sit facing the TV and the pull out sofa cones in handy when My grown son come on a Nascar trip with us. Only thing is I would like more windows in the living room. With 5 slide outs It has a lot of room and feels like I'm at home. As for one year and done the Columbus has been making this for 5 years now and the Lincoln has been a FL for over 10 years now. So they do sell just need the right buyer. As for me I would buy this one again no problem.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:20 PM   #15
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We've never owned a 5th wheel, only trailers since 1970. We prefer the kitchen/living room to be in the front, because when you are backed into a campsite, your living area is open to the activities going on in the campground. At night, the bedroom is in the woods. We had to look long and hard to find a trailer with the bedroom in the rear, all the manufacturers are putting them in the front now. Just a different perspective. On another note, be careful of rear kitchens with the cabinets on the back wall. That wall gets a lot of bounce going down the highway. If you have one of those, you need to make sure that your dishes, etc. are secure, otherwise, you'll find them in the middle of the kitchen floor.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:40 PM   #16
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Looked at them and loved them. The one looked at had opposing sofas and theatre seats. The front was a wall unit with large screen TV, entertainment unit, fireplace and computer desk. Just beautiful. All this talk about stairs is nonsense. We all need a bit of exercise at our age. Think of it as a stairmaster. Great entertainment area and also, in a pinch, a second separate bedroom for those expected and unexpected guests.Agree that the pin weight is much more and you will need a 1 tonner to tow. If I could afford it, I would buy one without hesitation.
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Old 01-23-2016, 03:16 PM   #17
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We seriously looked at both Cardinal FR. The deal breaker was the space between the bed and side walls. It would have been difficult to make the bed. Otherwise, excellent unit.
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Old 01-23-2016, 03:31 PM   #18
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big loss of basement storage. Everyone I've seen has a slide, usually the dinette, under the awning. I think a slide under the awning is a major design flaw. I like my awning space. Seating for 6 or more, when these are marketed to couples. Put something usefull in the space instead.
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Old 01-23-2016, 03:47 PM   #19
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We purchased a Sandpiper 366FL in 2013 and traded out to a Sierra 360 PDEK last year.
Overall we were pleased with the FL but lack of basement storage and no comfortable way to watch television quickly became old. The stairs are not an issue as we have them in every fifth wheel.
Some of the newer FL have a better layout but the lack of storage is still a big turnoff.
Look around I guarantee you can find a year old unit for a great price.
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Old 01-23-2016, 04:22 PM   #20
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Montana make a front living room that has a big window in the front. It looks great, Montana also has a front kitchen that looks great and it also has the front window. Both models have the rear bedroom

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