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Old 09-24-2011, 04:04 AM   #71
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That being said, it does smaell sometimes and you really need to think about the people around you.

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Old 09-24-2011, 06:27 PM   #72
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I am wondrous at how, in this day and age of environmental awareness, it is the content of MY replies that are being criticized.

Why can't we start an open, educated, rational discussion on this topic and try to learn something from it?

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Old 09-24-2011, 06:46 PM   #73
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"I am wondrous at how, in this day and age of environmental awareness, it is the content of MY replies that are being criticized"
Labzy, there are lots and lots of people who simply think they can do whatever they please, and if anyone dares to challenge their stupidity, you get abused.
I always consider the source. The dumber people appear, the dumber they probably are. Best just to cross the street and avoid the smell.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:06 PM   #74
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Did you start this? Well darn! To keep from dumping my grey water on the ground, I'll just take the tank out and let it all drain right out of the pipe.
Just joking, I think. I'm sure there are some that will dump their grey water on the ground when they feel it's absolutely necessary. But for more than the majority of us, we have the Blue Boys or the like to take care of our responsibilities.

You also have to keep in mind that even though we know it is against the law in most places, so is not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, or exceeding the speed limit. These cause accidents and increase those naughty greenhouse gasses!
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Old 09-24-2011, 09:45 PM   #75
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Kim, Crocus has it right - Consider the source behind those criticisms.

Honestly, its beyond me why people want to dump and its surprising the level of justification they will give to prove that they are right - in their own minds.

In camping, as with the environment as whole, there are people who take a little time and effort to clean up after themselves and those who do not.

All you can do is to do what you did, which is to ask others to monitor their own adherence to legal, ethical, or safety principles. Fortunately, our society is still mostly self-policing and its up to them to want to change.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:52 PM   #76
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Yikes, we don't do that, EVER! Must be mistaking us for someone else. Never in 30 or so years of camping have we ever emptied grey or black water on to ground or in bush, even when tenting.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:55 PM   #77
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Don't know where my reply went to but I am repeating, we have never in 30+ years of camping, ever emptied grey or black water onto the ground or into the bush, and I mean NOT EVER. Must have mistaken us for someone else.
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I've been searching for the pertinent laws in Michigan. So far, I have nothing more than an encouragement from the DNR.

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While a disgusting practice, here is the EPA's definition of Gray Water and applicable federal regulations. While the article specifically addresses ship discharges, the definition and logic is presented.

Regulation of ship pollution in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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None of these posts have changed how I feel about grey dumping. I never dump a complete grey tank anywhere except a dump site. If I need to dump 5 gallons in a bucket and dump that bucket off in the woods somewhere to get me through to the next day when I leave I will continue to do so without a 2nd thought.

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