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Old 06-14-2015, 09:22 AM   #21
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Just curious, are there a lot of campgrounds that don't have power? So far, we have only stayed at State run sites.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:18 AM   #22
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Just be careful of Db sound level regardless of what you buy. What you think is negligible may not be. 59 Db is twice a loud as 56Db. It's NOT a linear scale.
Actually I think you are a little off. While the Db scale is logarithmic, it is the Power Ratio where 3 Db represents doubling. On the Amplitude Ratio 3 Db represents an increase of 1.413 while 1 Db is an increase of 1.122. So you are correct that a 3 Db difference is worth considering. Also, the distance from the object has a big effect as doubling the distance to the measurement point reduces the level by 6 Db. I mention this because the Champion Gen. Db level is measured at 20+ feet I believe. The quietest Gen. according to what I have seen is the Honda. I would prefer the Yam but I don't want to spend $250 (plus the cost of the tank) for a remote fuel tank.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:59 AM   #23
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Just curious, are there a lot of campgrounds that don't have power? So far, we have only stayed at State run sites.
Depends on which state you're in.

In California, less than 1% of the state park campsites have power.
The few that do, are usually reserved 6 months in advance, all year.

Very few National Parks have campsites with power.
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We have 2 Honda 2000 and run them parallel. Bought them for use with a previous RV but use them mostly for power outage! Lol


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Just curious, are there a lot of campgrounds that don't have power? So far, we have only stayed at State run sites.
We stay in national forests. Millions of square miles to camp in. Just drive down the dirt road and find a flat place. This is called dispersed camping.

Scattered around inside the national forest are some forest service campgrounds. These are usually located at popular areas, meaning there are probably 20+ sites filled with other people. But at least they are far enough away that sometimes you could not even throw a rock at them.

These will almost always have water available. Sometimes there are threadless water spigots scattered around. You will need a water thief to use a water hose. Someone will have to hold the hose on the spigot while you add water to your fresh water tank. I have found that I have never, so far, used more than 175 of water hose from the spigot to my campsite. Sometimes it is a pipe coming out of the side of a hill, where they have tapped into a spring.Sometimes I get water from a creek. I have my own water filter to make the water safe to drink. There is almost always either flush toilets or at least pit (vault) toilets.

I grew up in a big city and use camping as a way to get away from the crowds. For real solitude I go backpacking but DW cannot do that any more.

We only stay in RV parks for a single night when traveling cross country. They remind me of drive-in theaters.

Most RVs are self contained, meaning hookups are not required. Some people will never camp anywhere that does not have hook ups. That means they will not be camped near me.

Other people hate to be alone in the forest. Or they use more than 5 gallons of water per person per day. So they choose to stay in RV parks.

We each get to choose where we stay.

After I posted this I realized that the question was a bit off topic. Someone should move the question and the reply's to a more appropriate location.
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:35 PM   #26
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you don't reverse the process to start...leave the wires disconnected....its a one time deal...to start just rotate switch up choke and pull....
SO just disconnect one of the wires and now the on off switch does what? Nothing? Or is this what triggers the 3 minutes of run before shutting off. Never heard of this but I am interested.
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your answer

the Honda black rotating on/off switch....at on [up] power to spark plug and fuel valve opens...at off [down] closes a fuel valve and cuts power to spark plug ...thats NORMAL SWITCH OPERATIONS....with wire disconnected residual fuel in carb will run +- 3 minutes burning carb dry with the switch turned down. by disconnecting that wire, it stops the off switch from killing power to sparkplug in the down position [so it ...sparkplug, will be live all the time], so the engine continues to run until carb is dry. hope that clears things up.
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It does, thank you very much. I will need to do that. Saves me from needing to drain the carb.
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on the iu honda 2000 it is very simple to run carb dry...bottom right when side panel removed is a elec coupling which disconnects the off switch when you turn it down to off....will run for 3mins and quit....learned that on you tube which is a powerhouse of info.
I bought two EU2000I's one is the companion so that gives a 30 amp plug. I was fortunate enough to find them slightly used on a Craigslist for a lot less. While many have different ideas on what they will use it really only matters to you the end user. Mine we still unde warranty when I got them so my risk was very low.

The Honda does in fact have a fuel shiut off, unfortunately it's not separate from the ignition. Why a major engine manufacturer would not separate these knowing how bad the additives in fuel are to carburetor and other internal parts is beyond me. Probably the keep it simple for some mechanically challenged types is the only reason I can fathom.

I open the panel & disconnect the ignition wire and with the switch in off all fuel is cut off, start it up and it runs dry reconnect same wire and put it away until it's time to use it again.

Oh and any fuel you buy for your generators should only be premium (no Ethanol added) and add Stabil or some other reputable stabilizer so it has a decent shelf life.

Good luck with your generators which ever you buy.
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To answer the OP's original question, I don't think you can go wrong with either brand. That being said, we have a Honda that we bought in 2003. I have changed the oil every season and cleaned the air filter a few times. It's a Honda. They last forever. I don't worry about draining the fuel as I use Stabil all the time. When I fill up the gas can I put Stabil in so I know it's in the gen. I have gone 7 months without using it and it starts on the 7th pull at worst. Jerry


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