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Old 09-09-2015, 04:32 PM   #31
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Gut feeling... FR has known about this and these units (especially 5th wheel toy haulers) should be recalled. This isn't like a sticky door or a decals that peel off; peoples lives ARE at stake.

Not sure how one XLR unit discussed on this forum, out of the thousands of units that are on the road, represents a major problem. Now if there were several hundred people on this thread with the same problem, you have a case.


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Old 09-09-2015, 05:41 PM   #32
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Not sure how one XLR unit discussed on this forum, out of the thousands of units that are on the road, represents a major problem. Now if there were several hundred people on this thread with the same problem, you have a case.

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The number of members with this model, on this forum, has to be a drop in the bucket compared to all that were built and one broken frame is one too many! I hope there is only one, but we can't know this for sure. Certainly one or two that come to our attention doesn't prove anything. Contacting NHTSB was proper.

I hope that this is corrected properly. A fixed crack with welding alone will not make a permenant fix. Something has to be done to improve the frame / structure with plates or gussets... something more than welding alone. I know jack squat about frame engineering, but I know this from experience. Welding changes the temper of the steel.

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Old 09-09-2015, 11:10 PM   #33
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WOW that close up looks like a flaw in the steel.
Or like someone dragged a cutting torch past the spot or attempted to dress a crack with a weld to hide it.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:01 AM   #34
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I will look at the outside / exterior frame rails on my 380 Amp. Like WolfWhistle said it's not a simple, non-life threatening problem. And I also think that there is just a small fraction of the units sold that are on the forum.
Thanks for the heads up folks.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:24 AM   #35
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The number of members with this model, on this forum, has to be a drop in the bucket compared to all that were built and one broken frame is one too many! I hope there is only one, but we can't know this for sure. Certainly one or two that come to our attention doesn't prove anything. Contacting NHTSB was proper.

I hope that this is corrected properly. A fixed crack with welding alone will not make a permenant fix. Something has to be done to improve the frame / structure with plates or gussets... something more than welding alone. I know jack squat about frame engineering, but I know this from experience. Welding changes the temper of the steel.

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A little searching will turn up lots of Lippert frame issues, and not only FR... granted some of these go back in time, but I didn't give it much time to prepare my case.

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Suppose, you come up with a hundred different scenarios on the web, of individuals with a cracked frame. I'm not sure of the current number of RVs out there, but in 2011 there were an estimated 8.9 million residents in the US with RVs. I'm quite certain that number has grown considerably. Doubt they will make a recall. I'm not saying they shouldn't look at the issue, I'm just being realistic. As for the OP, I wouldn't bother waiting on Lippert or FR as to finding a correct procedure to repair it. I would take it to a frame shop and just have them repair it. I'm sure they will over engineer a fix, and it's not like you have a warranty you have to worry about voiding.
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Oh boy! I'm not suggesting 8.9 million needs to be recalled. Not all sport Lippert frames. But someone posting a problem like this should make us want to some checking.
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Sure, you can check your frame, as you should check all systems of your RV on a regular basis, but you were talking complete line recall and I think you jumped way overboard on the situation.


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Old 09-10-2015, 11:26 PM   #38
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Is the frame problem with a certain model or floor plan? Which side of the RV has the crack right or left? I know that Lippert is making the frames for all of the RV manufacturers in Indiana.
Just curious if it was a design flaw on where the worlds are in aspect of a large slide or near the hitch end or the rear near the ramp section. Just trying to see if it can be narrowed down. Hope no one gets hurt from this.


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Old 09-11-2015, 01:56 AM   #39
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...... The big question I never got answered was, if this happened now, and you offer me no solution and still use the same frame supplier, WHY WOULD I BUY ANOTHER ONE????
Exactly! They don't get it. A frame is not suppose to break. My Lippert frame sheared the front crossmember for the pinbox.
I got the same run around for over a month in the dead of winter.

Anyways they put a bad taste in my mouth.
I ended up repairing it myself making it 4 times as strong.

When you get that repaired have it plated and then the web and flange boxed in the spring mount areas of the I beam. Also, if it isn't already, install steel tubing crossmembers from left to right at the spring mount areas. There's alot of stress when you turn sharp and the tires "scrub" sideways. This is what I believe caused your cracks in that cheap high carbon Chinese steel.
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A-man, if this was a Toyota Camry, I bet the line would be recalled. The entire line of this model should be recalled IMO in case I wasn't clear.

Has anyone found the PDF from FR on how the repair should be accomplished? Its only 2 pages. WW
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