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Old 09-14-2015, 11:09 AM   #51
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I wonder sometimes, as we demand better consumer rights, if "we" as consumers are part of the problem?

I mean "we" want bigger nicer rigs, with multiple television and residential refrigerators. But we want to pull them with 1/2 ton Fords, with V6 motors?

In order to make that happen, weight is cut wherever possible. Now, we begin to see weak thin steel used in areas where it shouldn't be?

I could be way off base, just a thought.

Not to minimize what you guys are going through. I'd be pissed too.

Hopefully the manufacturers stand up and do the right thing.
I think it's more like the manufactures wanting to expand their market share and accommodate the 1/2 ton market . if they were concerned about the consumer they would build more quality into the units . consumers demands are rarely met .
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:29 PM   #52
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*update* I realize I posted on this thread with a coachmen but the shoddy equipment still came from the same supplier. Anyway, I dropped the TT off at a weld shop middle of last week and contacted my long distant dealer with my troubles. At just shy of 2 years and no extended warranty I was instructed to send pics and repair quote which I did. Dealer says they still have no word on this from coachmen but to go ahead with the repairs and they will cover with expectations of reimbursement from lippert

As far as the damage, it's not as bad as it looks and I don't believe anyone was in any danger. Inconvenient YES! Could it have been worse YES! I could've found it on a trip.
As far as repairs goes this is a very simple repair.

As for the rest of you, keep your frames painted and inspect for rust lines (cracks). The cracks are much more noticeable if your paint looks nice.
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:58 PM   #53
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After finding a rear spring hanger ripped away from the frame I found 4 more cracks in the frame just like yours. Going to the weld shop tomorrow.
Please contact me (PM if you like) and I will give you all the info I have to contact NHTSB. I have already submitted a detailed description, and need people with the same issue to submit it to them so there is an investigation. Just one (as in ME) doesn't do a whole lot, but if we can document more of the same issue we may be able to get them to be accountable.
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Suppose, you come up with a hundred different scenarios on the web, of individuals with a cracked frame. I'm not sure of the current number of RVs out there, but in 2011 there were an estimated 8.9 million residents in the US with RVs. I'm quite certain that number has grown considerably. Doubt they will make a recall. I'm not saying they shouldn't look at the issue, I'm just being realistic. As for the OP, I wouldn't bother waiting on Lippert or FR as to finding a correct procedure to repair it. I would take it to a frame shop and just have them repair it. I'm sure they will over engineer a fix, and it's not like you have a warranty you have to worry about voiding.
Actually, A-man my contacting Lippert turned out to be a big joke, to me anyway. They truly jerk you around, from simply trying to contact them by phone to the final straw of having them send me a document stating I would not share their repair procedure with anyone other than the fixing dealer and having to sign and submit it back before they would send me anything. If it wasn't that this thing cost so much to begin with their response would be laughable.
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Old 09-14-2015, 07:34 PM   #55
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Actually, A-man my contacting Lippert turned out to be a big joke, to me anyway. They truly jerk you around, from simply trying to contact them by phone to the final straw of having them send me a document stating I would not share their repair procedure with anyone other than the fixing dealer and having to sign and submit it back before they would send me anything. If it wasn't that this thing cost so much to begin with their response would be laughable.
so...they suddenly become experts in the frame building business and you're not to share their secrets.

I would like to see Lippert go belly up.
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Please contact me (PM if you like) and I will give you all the info I have to contact NHTSB. I have already submitted a detailed description, and need people with the same issue to submit it to them so there is an investigation. Just one (as in ME) doesn't do a whole lot, but if we can document more of the same issue we may be able to get them to be accountable.
Post it! We're not the only ones just the observant ones.
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so...they suddenly become experts in the frame building business and you're not to share their secrets.

I would like to see Lippert go belly up.
Exactly was my feeling. They should of done it right the first time.
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Old 09-21-2015, 12:43 PM   #58
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So, I finally dropped the underbelly cover today. Think I found the reason for the crack- A crossmember welded in that location. Crack originates right where the angle iron is welded to frame.

Well, don't know what happened there but the pics are all upside down and I can't find an edit anywhere. Not exactly sure what the cross member does other than protect the rear grey tank. There is nothing attached to it and no straps under the tank.
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So I wonder did they over heat the frame when welding and made that section brittle or shot a hole in it when welding?


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So, I finally dropped the underbelly cover today. Think I found the reason for the crack- A crossmember welded in that location. Crack originates right where the angle iron is welded to frame.

Well, don't know what happened there but the pics are all upside down and I can't find an edit anywhere. Not exactly sure what the cross member does other than protect the rear grey tank. There is nothing attached to it and no straps under the tank.
Keeps your frame rails vertical.

Same as mine are on both sides of the cross members between the axles and the one just forward of the front springs.

It cracked on mine because it's only 1/8 plate. The top overlaps the top of the frame and is secured...just the bottom butt welds are the problem.
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